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onetwentie
 


Member Since: 25 May 2020
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 61

2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Barolo BlackDiscovery 3

Hi All

So having charged the battery (again) and tried to start the car again, I am back to square one.

I get the hazards flashing, temp gauge full, and all the errors. No start.

I have checked as many connectors as I can find with the HCAN wires (yellow/brown and yellow/black) and all of them check out okay.

Is there anything else I can do to check? Neutral

thanks
Rehman.
  
Post #234013122nd Jun 2023 2:04 pm
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onetwentie
 


Member Since: 25 May 2020
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 61

2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Barolo BlackDiscovery 3

Martin wrote:

You said it went in for suspension issues, did it perhaps have the suspension ECU removed or unplugged?


Everything else on the bus appears to be 'missing', and they are all 'downstream' of the C0469/C0467R connector pair (this is the middle set at the bottom of the Right Hand A post) - but it's the fact the CAN bus goes in and out of the suspension ECU [C0867R] which could be relevant. If the ECU is disconnected or missing then the CAN bus is broken at this point.

It could also be the loop to the EPB ECU (C2178) which is also in and out, via connector pair C0376/C0390 which is on top of the LH chassis rail at the back near the spare wheel well. However if it was that far along the bus I would expect to be seeing the suspension ECU in the IID fault list.

Try the above first and let us know Smile


So..scratching my head and though I would re-read the posts..

I am not sure I know where the Suspension ECU is located..? Also the C0469/C0467 connector pair - @Martin - you said this is the middle set at the bottom of the right hand A post - do you mean towards the footwell, like behind the OBDII connector type area? or actually behind the A pillar, north of the dashboard?

Sorry if it's a dumb question.. going to go and strip the car again!
  
Post #234014622nd Jun 2023 4:46 pm
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onetwentie
 


Member Since: 25 May 2020
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 61

2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Barolo BlackDiscovery 3
UPDATE

SO I've just checked something else, following advice from one of the videos that gstuart posted.. and I believe I have a short to ground.

I tested voltage using my Multimeter between pins 6 and ground (bolt on the door hinge) and I should have got zero (I believe) but I got like 2 and a half volts.. also between pin 14 and the same bolt I get 1.5 volts.

Can someone please tell me what this means? is it likely that the both the HCAN wires are grounded somewhere?

Also here are the current logs from when you check the ECUs, which from what I can tell means that the steering angle sensor is now not visible..


Vehicle scanned on 2023/06/22 17:25:56
Using IIDTool BT V4.0 B2691

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Audio Amplifier
Latest Version

Assembly (F113) = XQK500105 = 5H32-19C164-AA
Calibration (F124) = 5H42-14C527-AB
Hardware (F191) = XQK500192 = 5H32-14C524-AA
Serial = 0717802490000000
Strategy (F188) = NNV501935 = 5H32-14C526-AA

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Audio System
Latest Version

Assembly (F112) = VUX500520 = 8H22-18C815-AA
Calibration (F126) = HTFB
Hardware (F191) = NNN501280 = 8H22-14C230-AA
Serial = 0714193250000000
Strategy (F188) = NNV505710 = 8H22-14C044-AA
VIN = SALLAAA138A450869

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Auxilary Heater
No assembly exists

Assembly (F112) = NNW502734
Assembly (F113) = JEC500820 = 6H22-70G308-AA
Hardware (F191) = JEC500720 = UH22-14C242-AA
Serial = 0710098288
Strategy (F188) = NNV501282 = 4H22-14C100-AA

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Body Control
Latest Version

Assembly (F113) = Unknown
Assembly (F112) = YQE500420
Hardware (F191) = NNN500960 = 7H32-14C256-AA
Serial = 2E23479655
Strategy (F188) = NNV504320 = 7H32-14C184-AA
VIN = SALLAAA138A450869

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Cell Phone
Latest Version

Assembly (F112) = XVJ500420 = 3H42-19K350-GD
Calibration (F124) = NNS501775 = 3H42-14C347-AA
Hardware (F191) = XVJ500410 = 3H42-14C345-AC
Serial = 071690952
Strategy (F188) = NNV507240 = 3H42-14C346-AD

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Instrument Pack
No update found

Assembly (F112) = 8H2210849BB
Hardware (F191) = YAH500190 = 7H22-14C226-BB
Serial = 0392878002000000
Strategy (F188) = 8H2214C026AB
VIN = SALLAAA138A450869

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Navigation
No data from ECU

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Parking Aid
No data from ECU

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Steering Angle
No data from ECU

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Television
Latest Version

Assembly (F112) = UH42-19C063-BC
Hardware (F191) = UH42-14D417-BA
Serial = 071830099
Strategy (F188) = UH42-14D419-AC

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Traffic Message
No assembly exists

Assembly (F112) = XRA500031 = 5H22-19C063-BA
Hardware (F191) = XRA500120 = 7H42-18B876-AA
Serial = 071422093
Strategy (F188) = NNV501671 = 5H22-14D419-AA

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Ventilation
Latest Version

Assembly (F112) = NNW503264 = 6H22-10K974-AHA
Hardware (F191) = NNN501380 = 8H22-14C239-EA
Strategy (F188) = NNV501317 = 6H22-14C100-RA

Any and all help appreciated!
  
Post #234015022nd Jun 2023 6:02 pm
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loanrangie
 


Member Since: 18 Jun 2017
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 606

Australia 2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

EAS ECU is under the dash on the right almost directly up from the accelerator pedal.
  
Post #234017423rd Jun 2023 12:24 am
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