Gareth
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Quote:The pipe that runs across the front of the radiator wrapped in it's own mini rad (someone please step in with the correct terminolgy here
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Slimer
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I was going to say that but it didn't seem right! Cheers  The End
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| 19th Jan 2006 10:49 pm |
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Gareth
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Maybe the Arctic owners don't need a fuel cooler. Perhaps a two foot length of pipe lagging from B&Q will solve it.
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| 19th Jan 2006 10:55 pm |
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Slimer
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A snippet from the workshop manual about the fuel cooler -
The fuel cooler uses engine coolant, direct from the lower part of the radiator, to cool fuel returning to the tank from the HP injection pump.
The fuel cooler is located on the right hand side of the chassis, at the rear of the engine, near to the starter motor. A bracket, which is attached to the right hand chassis rail, provides for the attachment of the cooler. The bracket has two slots which accept two plastic pegs which are attached to the cooler. A bolt is inserted through a hole in the bracket and screws into a captive nut on the cooler to positively secure the cooler to the bracket.
The cooler has four quick fit connector pipes which provide for the attachment of the fuel inlet hose from the HP injection pump, the fuel outlet hose to the fuel filter, the coolant inlet hose from the radiator and the coolant outlet hose to the coolant thermostat housing. The coolant pipes can be identified by their smaller diameter
So it doesn't sound like the pipe I was on about is involved which means I'm now on a mission to find out what it does do! The End
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| 19th Jan 2006 11:04 pm |
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Gareth
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OK, I saw it when I was fitting my spotlamps, and I did not give it a second thought at the time, but if you want my guess, it is something to dowith the aircon.
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| 19th Jan 2006 11:07 pm |
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Slimer
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Quite possibly, it was a LRE guy that told me it was a fuel cooler but as we know they're not always right The End
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| 19th Jan 2006 11:09 pm |
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Slimer
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Right found it
It's a Power Steering Fluid Cooler! 
So the next question is What temperature does power steering fluid start to freeze at? The End
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| 19th Jan 2006 11:12 pm |
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Gareth
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I was just going to say that! Honest
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| 19th Jan 2006 11:13 pm |
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Gareth
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Anyway, it would appear that wherever the components are, there is a problem with the D3 in extremely low temps. You would have thought that Land Rover would have tested in such climates, so any design flaw as obvious as this should have been ironed out.
Makes the current TV ad campaign seem a bit weak. I bet the eskimo's huskeys don't stop at minus 27
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| 19th Jan 2006 11:18 pm |
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Slimer
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He's probably driving an V8 8) The End
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| 19th Jan 2006 11:22 pm |
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Gareth
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Yep, good point.
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| 19th Jan 2006 11:24 pm |
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OffRoader
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Gas stations in Finland have only been selling Winter qualified (down to -35) Diesel since October, meaning that all of us should have only that in our cars. In Northern part of Finlandm the gas stations change to Winter quality already at September.
Offroader -- too many modifications made to my Disco 3 to be listed in here --
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| 20th Jan 2006 10:50 am |
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arsi
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The reason for my experiance was probably fuel freezing. My dealer informed that they had yesterday two other D3 having the same symptoms. Today I have had no problems and the temperature is -20C.
It seems that there are variations of the winter grade specification among the fuel stations. Most of the big brands sell winter grade that is usabe down to -32 or -35 but some have only -25.
Blame the wife: I usually fill up the tank from selected stations that sells the -32/35 grade winter diesel. My wife, who is more economcal than I am, confessed that she did fill some diesel from a station that has lower prices than the one next to it. Of course she did not remebered the name of the station but after some pressure she was able to tell the location of it.
I went to look at athe station, and in deed, their winter grade was -25C.
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| 20th Jan 2006 12:24 pm |
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Pelyma
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I can't even imagine that temperature. So LR seem to be exhonourated. What do you do if it falls below -32? Is it just a matter of waiting for the temperature to rise before you can use the car? What happens to the country as a whole, does it just grind to a halt? Or is it very rare? Global warming is good isn't it DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S
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| 20th Jan 2006 12:44 pm |
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Yello
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*SIGH*
My Friday...
First thing in the morning I went to see my LR dealer. They said that the current SW version has a bug that would explain the behaviour. And yes, it has something to do with these temperatures. Fortunately LR had released a new SW version which fixes this bug. OK, with new version uploaded I happily drive away. After 40 km tha car s is being looked at by stalls again!!!!! And again... and again... In the next 8 km the car stalls 5 times.
A call to the dealer. They called the local importer. Result: I now drive a bloody Hyundai and the Disco is being looked at by the importer...
*SIGH* Disco 3 TDV6 SE Auto
Oh, and the other 4WD: FourX with a Recaro seat 
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| 20th Jan 2006 3:35 pm |
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