The pedestrians we're most likely to hit have a big tail, very large thighs and a small brain (no, I'm not referring to female Texans ). Thank goodness for kangaroos. A couple of years ago, a very well-meaning British-named refinery here tried to prohibit employees from parking cars with roo-bars in the company-owned parking lot for pedestrian safety. I seem to recall this rapidly changed when they found out they might be up on charges if an employees car hit a roo while driving from work and the humans were hurt or killed because they weren't allowed roo-bars.
I once hit a wombat at night and it cleanly removed the engine and left it behind the car. To simulate this yourselves just fill a black leather bag 900mm in diameter with bricks and drive into it at 100km/hr. I can't imaging roo bars being outlawed here (I learned quickly that the LR A-Frame shears like cardboard when hitting any thing substantive). I predict that we'll forever be able to get big, ugly, winch-capable front end bars in Australia.
PS: I look forward to seeing how EU pedestrian protection requirements are applied to snow plows.Jim Dowell - D4 HSE TDi, 12,000 hydraulic winch & hidden winch mount, MTRs, TyreDog, Traxide 2 x aux battery system, fixed air compressor, Dolium roof rack, MitchHitch.
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11th May 2009 7:52 am
Spooky
Member Since: 02 Jun 2009
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Can't fit bits to our cars, for fear of injuring pedestrians??? Stupid or what! An HGV isn't exactly pedestrian-friendly, and neither's the No 9 Bus - can't see anyone being successful in banning them, though ...
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2nd Jun 2009 12:07 pm
Landylad
Member Since: 23 Dec 2008
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 366
Will the running boards/side steps from the D3 fit the D4? Not that I have any, just wondering if they would have stock.
Incidentally, how much are the boards/steps?If in doot, flat oot!!
30th Aug 2009 10:00 pm
Calcul@tor
Member Since: 08 Mar 2006
Location: Middle England!
Posts: 810
Towbar?
Will a D3 adjustable height towbar fit the D4?
Looks like it should... but nice if someone could confirm.
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1st Sep 2009 3:12 pm
SN
Member Since: 03 Jan 2006
Location: Romiley
Posts: 13710
Landylad wrote:
Will the running boards/side steps from the D3 fit the D4? Not that I have any, just wondering if they would have stock.
Incidentally, how much are the boards/steps?
Given that externally the D4 is 99% identical to an MY09 D3 (see DG's gallery) behind the A Pillar I'd hazard a guess that they would fit...Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
1st Sep 2009 3:17 pm
748scratcher
Member Since: 19 May 2008
Location: Brough
Posts: 214
I was talking to a salesman at Ripon Landrover over the weekend, he told me that my Tow Bar, side tubes , ladder, roof bars, mats, sill trims could all be swapped over to a D4, he wasn't sure about the mud flaps or towbar sockets, he was also checking to see if privacy glass is an option on a XS, he was giving a 6% discount on RMP!
Electrics, will not, they are different than D3 and this was specifically pointed out to me by LR so whether there is a change to something unsure till i see a set
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1st Sep 2009 3:42 pm
SN
Member Since: 03 Jan 2006
Location: Romiley
Posts: 13710
Oooerrrrr - not sure I'm liking the D4 A Bar...
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1st Sep 2009 3:58 pm
SJR
Member Since: 09 Aug 2006
Location: East Manchester
Posts: 4030
Those driving lights look to small as well I believe that every human has a finite number of heart-beats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises.
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1st Sep 2009 4:01 pm
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Member Since: 08 Mar 2006
Location: Middle England!
Posts: 810
The Large One wrote:
Multi height towbar will transfer
Many thanks TLOD4 XS MY12 Galway
1st Sep 2009 5:45 pm
jjvd21
Member Since: 16 Jul 2007
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1070
I think it looks much better than previous version.
I think current a frame looks better than new D4 stub version.16 D4 Landmark
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2nd Sep 2009 4:03 am
TallPaul
Member Since: 03 Jan 2008
Location: Near Reading
Posts: 1214
Am I right in thinking that the interior matt's and boot liners will all fit as its a D3 really underneath?
Just wondering if its even worth bothering going to talk to dealer, with strong second hand prices it might be the time to trade in, and no way we are buying a Disco cost car at new VAT rate or after April 2010 with £750 VED!
15th Sep 2009 10:27 am
Big Al
Member Since: 20 Jan 2005
Location: Wiltshire UK
Posts: 143
I know for certain, since I'm still waiting from the 1st Sept when I picked up my D4, that there is an issue with mudflaps on the D4 and they are different to those on the D3 and the D3 ones don't fit. I must say I find this hard to believe but my dealer (who is very good) assured me of such. There was also an issue with teh towbar electrics, but this has recently come in and I'm waiting for the mudflaps prior to havingn the towbar installed etc...
15th Sep 2009 11:10 am
TallPaul
Member Since: 03 Jan 2008
Location: Near Reading
Posts: 1214
Thanks big-al
I assumed the mud flaps might be different, but in any case my experience is once their on and the screw's start to corrode their best left alone!
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| 08MY Discovery 3 (history) 
). Thank goodness for kangaroos. A couple of years ago, a very well-meaning British-named refinery here tried to prohibit employees from parking cars with roo-bars in the company-owned parking lot for pedestrian safety. I seem to recall this rapidly changed when they found out they might be up on charges if an employees car hit a roo while driving from work and the humans were hurt or killed because they weren't allowed roo-bars.
An HGV isn't exactly pedestrian-friendly, and neither's the No 9 Bus - can't see anyone being successful in banning them, though ...
