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al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
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I agree, its never something I would have considered either, but that was the info back from Bailey tech support.
My mate has just suggested something I'd forgotten about, and that was to try the lightweight calor bottles. Worth a look methinks.
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 27th Feb 2012 2:29 pm |
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Navigator
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Perhaps they mean moving some excess weight backwards to "just behind the axle" and no more. A vaccine does not stop you catching a virus, or passing it on, or getting ill from it, really ill. It does reduce the likelyhood of you dying when really, really ill. Stay Alive - KEEP AWAY FROM PEOPLE.
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| 27th Feb 2012 2:38 pm |
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al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
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yep, most likely. I would never consider putting stuff right at the back (even though there is a huge space under the fixed bed right at the back - you could put quite a few cases of wine under there  )
Al Volvo XC90 B5 Plus Dark
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Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
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| 27th Feb 2012 2:41 pm |
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Thelo3
Member Since: 23 Feb 2011
Location: Nothamptonshire
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al - i will check the nose weight next time i pull it. the tintent is in storage until easter so once its loaded up again for the season i will check the nose weight and see how she tows.
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| 27th Feb 2012 4:08 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
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Quote:My mate has just suggested something I'd forgotten about, and that was to try the lightweight calor bottles
I have been using them for a few years now and they really are a lot lighter than normal cylinders, well worth considering them if you are worried about excessive noseweight. 
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| 27th Feb 2012 4:16 pm |
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al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
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Are you using the 6kg Calor Propane, or the BP bottles (5 & 10kg ones)?
I know propane gases off better at low temps, but it used to leave black soot on the pots.
Its a pain as they all use different connectors. Currently using 2 x 7kg Calor Butane.
Al Volvo XC90 B5 Plus Dark
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Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
Ancient - D3 TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony, 20" Stormers, satnav & DVD
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| 27th Feb 2012 4:38 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
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I use the 6kg propane all year round, never had any issues with soot though.
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| 27th Feb 2012 5:40 pm |
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grumpyoldgit
Member Since: 08 Oct 2011
Location: white rose county
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How do you alter the height on a detachable towbar! I assume that whoever designed the detachable and the receiver on the Landy had got together with the caravan manufacturers when they did so. Having just got rid of one caravan which towed perfectly (slightly nose down) i am hoping that the new van I collect next month has a hitch not far off the same height.
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| 28th Feb 2012 12:38 pm |
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J@mes
Member Since: 10 Nov 2008
Location: Bomber County
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You can't! You need the multi-height hitch 2014 D4 XS
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| 28th Feb 2012 12:40 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
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If you have the problem of one set of holes being slightly too high, but the lower set being slightly too low  You can always fit a packing plate (shim) between the bottom of the coupling head and the chassis. Depending on what height you need, this will determine the thickness of plate required.
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| 28th Feb 2012 1:07 pm |
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MadJax
Member Since: 30 May 2011
Location: Adelaide
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I remeber way back when I did a caravan club towing course. nose weight should be around 10% of the gross weight of the van. Put heavy items over the axle, or just in front/behind depending on the state of your nose weight.
Van should be level or slighty nose down, never nose up.
Never put heavy items right at the back/front i.e bike carriers/spare wheel should never be placed on the back of the van.
We user to tow a Stering Eccles Elite twin axle 1500kg with a freelander, never had any issues towing. Upgraded to a D2 as the car freelander was a little light. Now have a D4 and a off-road camping tralier. Don't think the old van would survive for long out here Discovery 4 2.7 SE
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| 18th Mar 2012 1:11 am |
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bambi
Member Since: 10 Apr 2009
Location: south yorkshire
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al cope wrote:The D3 nosewieght limit is 150kg max if I recall, but most 'vans max nosewieght is 100kg, so dont exceed that.
My new bailey shocked me a bit with its noseweight. Even with just 2 gas bottles in the front locker, its was way over 100kg. Bailey recommend I put stuff behind the axles to "counterbalance" - not something I would recommend, but looks like I've no choice.
Have you checked the 'vans nosewieght, as this might be your issue rather than nose height.
See if you can run as close to 100kg as you can.
Al
I looked at a new sorento and that has nw of 100kg, the hymer caravan I have has a nw of 85kg empty, when I posted this on the Kia forum I was told the same load at the rear, to counter balance , now all the info I have read about loading caravans says that is a no no, so judicious loading was required, one thing that will help are the new ultra lightweight bottles calor now do . I have all the gear I need stored and a nw of 95kg . Set with a calibrated gauge.
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| 21st Mar 2012 5:12 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
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Quote:I remeber way back when I did a caravan club towing course. nose weight should be around 10% of the gross weight of the van.
Not sure if you are talking about the Australian Caravan Club, but the UK Caravan Club recommends a noseweight of 7% of the caravans actual weight. Although you are advised not to exceed either the car or caravan manufacturers maximum figures. This would only really apply to very heavy outfits though.
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| 22nd Mar 2012 11:54 am |
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