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If I have to pay £12 a month or whatever it is, not to watch or listen to adverts, it’s money well spent. The BBC still has very good content. Why does everyone moan about it, but are happy to pay other broadcasters more?
10th Jun 2019 8:29 pm
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Narpy wrote:
I personally think anybody who has fought or served in the armed services should get a TV licence gratis in old age. The way we currently treat our service personnel in later life is a disgrace.
So just come off the phone to my brother in law. Ex Royal Marine and SBS. Fought in the Falklands and did other interesting things...... I asked him if he should get a free TV licence because of his service. His response - Why? Why not nurses, firefighters, teachers, dinner ladies etc, etc? His view was that they all served their country or community.D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
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10th Jun 2019 8:43 pm
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sly government offloaded it so BBC would get the bullets....that is now happening
10th Jun 2019 10:21 pm
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Lee Trinder wrote:
If I have to pay £12 a month or whatever it is, not to watch or listen to adverts, it’s money well spent. The BBC still has very good content. Why does everyone moan about it, but are happy to pay other broadcasters more?
I think its simply down to the fact we have no choice in the matter.
11th Jun 2019 5:36 am
Someone-Gone
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They should make it legal that you can watch non licence fee TV, but not BBC.
Surely in this day and age there should be a device that allows you to do this if you are insistent on charging everyone.
11th Jun 2019 6:11 am
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Lee Trinder wrote:
If I have to pay £12 a month or whatever it is, not to watch or listen to adverts, it’s money well spent. The BBC still has very good content. Why does everyone moan about it, but are happy to pay other broadcasters more?
The BBC seems to have as many 'adverts' for its own programmes and that you can hardly tell the difference to commercial channels, BBC radio is even worse
11th Jun 2019 7:00 pm
galwaygreen
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on line petition of 230.000 (and counting) against......interesting
11th Jun 2019 10:44 pm
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The Dundonian wrote:
They should make it legal that you can watch non licence fee TV, but not BBC.
Surely in this day and age there should be a device that allows you to do this if you are insistent on charging everyone.
If they did that the bbc’s funding would collapse overnight. We certainly wouldn’t pay the tv tax licence fee.
12th Jun 2019 12:04 am
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The amount of money the BBC gets from Joe Public is horrendous, nearly 4,000,000,000, plus another 1,000,000,000 from other sources.
Del - Very true, but maybe they should be subject to market forces. It seems because of this they aren’t particularly prudent with the monies they get and like rewards themselves with high salaries.
BBC and ITV are still the big two with Sky trailing. If the BBC pruned back some of the extortionate salaries, sure a few would migrate to other corporations, but generally it would reduced the overall bill and allow fresh talent to come to the fore.
12th Jun 2019 5:14 am
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I think public broadcasting is a useful feature to have in liberal democracies. I mean if you don’t want everything to be Fox News (*). That BBC (and YLE in our case) don’t have to compete commercially means they (theoretically at least) should be more objective and not chase ad dollars. I, too, disagree somewhat with what BBC and YLE produce (and what they spend their budget on) but on the whole they’re good.
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This turning the BBC into an unpaid recruitment, training and selection organisation for fresh talent, for the various commercial channels to recruit and benefit from
It seems extremely unfair on the BBC, when a government promises and pays for free licences for the over 75’s and then stops funding it, leaving the Beeb to take the flack when it has to start charging again.2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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12th Jun 2019 5:28 am
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Firstly, I don’t think we are particularly short of TV presenters, actors or the like, where do you stop when determining salaries? It’s a bit like footballers, some are grossly overpaid. At some point you’ve got to say no.
The thing is the BBC is funded by the public and you havent much choice, if you’ve got a TV, you’ve got to pay wether you watch the BBC or not. The BBC also needs to be accountable, which it isn’t. It seems to have an open cheque book.
That apart, I agree the BBC shouldn’t be determining policy with the licence fee, but they agreed to it.
12th Jun 2019 5:54 am
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I’m pretty convinced that the BBC don’t pay a penny more than they have to to retain the talent that they need to. I remember going to a open day for recruitment at the BBC, some years ago and the staff there were continually talking about justifying recruitment and training in terms of how many licence fees that each prospective member of staff would cost.
It’s only because we all have to pay that the service is so incredibly cheap for what it offers. We get a brilliant news website, lots of national and regional television and radio, catch up services, plenty of original and regional content. All free of advertising and political inference from government or owners with an agenda and for little more than the cost of the subscription to a single quality newspaper and a shed load less than the cost of a subscription to dross like Sky.
I know people accuse the BBC of political bias, but any balanced news organisation will appear “biased” to anyone inhabiting the far left, or far right It’s a laughable spectacle, listening to the two political extremes accusing the BBC of bias, towards the “other side”, over what is often the same story!2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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12th Jun 2019 6:22 am
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The Dundonian wrote:
The BBC also needs to be accountable, which it isn’t
The BBC is accountable to the BBC Board and is regulated by Ofcom.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
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12th Jun 2019 7:06 am
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Well it may be, but gives the appearance it isn’t. Certainly failed on the first sentence, unless we are going to argue about what’s in the public interest. Wouldn’t have thought making over 75’s pay for a licence is tbh and something a large majority of the public are against.
Might be corporate accountably, but not public accountability which is what I am on about.
Most of us on here don’t give the licence fee a second thought, but I feel for the OAPs that do.
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I asked him if he should get a free TV licence because of his service. His response - Why? Why not nurses, firefighters, teachers, dinner ladies etc, etc? His view was that they all served their country or community.
