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Hardware
 


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I was in ASDA yesterday and Halloween treats were on the list ... but the shelves were being cleared to put the Christmas stuff out.
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Dean
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Post #23520421st Nov 2023 8:47 pm
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Moo wrote:
I know what you mean, but I suppose it's no different going to a hotel and them photocopying your passport.


But you can at least ask them for it back when you leave & (hopefully) the details are not on a server somewhere else in the world.
  
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I haven't even seen the "offending" advert but who the heck thought they had to apologise?


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Dean
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2011 D4 XS - OBD port protection, RLD spare wheel protector, All LED interiors lights, Timed Climate enabled, iiD tool paired.
2011 D4 Landmark - Stolen from same dealer before I paid for it
2011 D4 GS - Stolen whilst at dealer Sad ... All LED interiors lights, DRLs, Spare Wheel protector.
1996 300Tdi - Eaten by tin worms 
 
Post #23520551st Nov 2023 11:29 pm
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The world is just bonkers. It seems that you have to be so sterile today.
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Re: Air BnB

Brian Considine wrote:
Never used them before and tried to last night.

Found a promising place, booked up, went to pay by CC & then had to verify myself. Fair enough, but they want a scan of my Passport, Driving Licence or "Government ID".

Being the victimn of identity theft some years ago I am more than reluctant to let anyone have the sort of data that's on those documents. My name & address are on public record so all a scammer needs is a little more data.

Air BnB appears to be a US owned company, with offices round the world - they could have ntheir databases anywhere.

ATM I'm "conversing" with Air BnB via messaging but like many companies thesedays you simply cannot find an email address.

I appreciate that ID is important to hosts but there are limits.


Very common in Italy and Spain. Usually linked to paying local city taxes, etc. In theory it means they are 'doing it properly' and not themselves dodging the city tax by letting a place on the side. I have had similar concerns but if you look up the company used they are usually quite big names in providing secure identification, payments, etc.

If you don't do the process you often won't complete 'check in' on the property so won't get access to key codes/lock-boxes, etc.
  
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Hardware wrote:
I haven't even seen the "offending" advert but who the heck thought they had to apologise?


Appears to be linked to the Gaza Conflict:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67294809

And yes, it's completely mad.

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Discussing it with SWMBO, after I posted, that was the only "logical" thing I could come up with.

Given the ad was probably conceived/filmed months ago, it's remarkably unlikely that M&S had any political point in mind here.
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Dean
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2011 D4 XS - OBD port protection, RLD spare wheel protector, All LED interiors lights, Timed Climate enabled, iiD tool paired.
2011 D4 Landmark - Stolen from same dealer before I paid for it
2011 D4 GS - Stolen whilst at dealer Sad ... All LED interiors lights, DRLs, Spare Wheel protector.
1996 300Tdi - Eaten by tin worms 
 
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Filmed in the summer well before the terrible events in Israel/Gaza started.

Don't see the need to apologise, frankly.
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My wife does all the photo shoots for the Christmas products from May to beginning of September. Its really weird going into the studio seeing Christmas trees and decorations etc on a hot sunny day in July. Messes with my head! Confused Laughing
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Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)

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Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
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Re: Air BnB

astonbuilder wrote:

Very common in Italy and Spain. Usually linked to paying local city taxes, etc. In theory it means they are 'doing it properly' and not themselves dodging the city tax by letting a place on the side. I have had similar concerns but if you look up the company used they are usually quite big names in providing secure identification, payments, etc.

If you don't do the process you often won't complete 'check in' on the property so won't get access to key codes/lock-boxes, etc.


Well theres two coyntries I have no intention of visiting.

CC is good enough for the likes of Travelodge/Premier inn so it should be good enough for a company that has no "bricks & morter" assests.
Why do ABnB need my driver number & what vehicles I am qualified to drive ?

They are still playing ping-pong messages with me but I'm convinced it's some form of AI that does not work very well.

I'll stick to what I know & the ABnB hosts will lose out.
  
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You can then rule out staying in hotels in most of Europe, the US, Japan, China, South Africa, Switzerland, the Caribbean and god knows where else I travel to that asks for ID or a passport.

I've never had any issues other than having my Amex cloned a few times. No major issue, just part of the rich tapestry of travelling and easily resolved.
 New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)

Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)

Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)

No longer the Old Buses original owner Sad
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control 
 
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Re: Air BnB

Brian Considine wrote:
astonbuilder wrote:

Very common in Italy and Spain. Usually linked to paying local city taxes, etc. In theory it means they are 'doing it properly' and not themselves dodging the city tax by letting a place on the side. I have had similar concerns but if you look up the company used they are usually quite big names in providing secure identification, payments, etc.

If you don't do the process you often won't complete 'check in' on the property so won't get access to key codes/lock-boxes, etc.


Well theres two countries I have no intention of visiting.

CC is good enough for the likes of Travelodge/Premier inn so it should be good enough for a company that has no "bricks & morter" assests.
Why do ABnB need my driver number & what vehicles I am qualified to drive ?

They are still playing ping-pong messages with me but I'm convinced it's some form of AI that does not work very well.

I'll stick to what I know & the ABnB hosts will lose out.
  
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Moo wrote:
You can then rule out staying in hotels in most of Europe, the US, Japan, China, South Africa, Switzerland, the Caribbean and god knows where else I travel to that asks for ID or a passport.

I've never had any issues other than having my Amex cloned a few times. No major issue, just part of the rich tapestry of travelling and easily resolved.


I don't have an issue anywhere except with AirBnB which is my point.

There AI for messaging is still at the Adam & Eve stage.
  
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But, in my frequent experiences, it's nothing to do with Airbnb, it's the host that has decided to do some 3rd party 'management' as they very often are no where near the property you are letting.

The secure ID means they can list with local police, a legal requirement in many places, and often the same company controls a 'keysafe' at the property with automated code. As I said before; don't authenticate and you don't get a keycode for entry.

I have asked if they are local and they'll sometimes meet & greet anyway and you prove ID (that they, a person you have never met and will likely never do again, takes a photo of your passport....), pay your local city taxes due and get handed the keys.

Your choice I suppose, but that's how it often works, same with booking.com, etc. at times
  
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The thing is I can validate my ID without the driver/passport number.

I fully understand the need for ID - but why do AirBnB want those numbers ? No-one else does.
Some hotels copy your documents but I cover the numbers.
We are constantly being told to be careful with our data - I'm just very careful with mine.

In the event of a serious issue the authorities have more than enough to trace me without the document numbers.
  
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