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14th Jan 2020 1:03 am
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Only 15 were actually snapped..so you weren't that far away 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
14th Jan 2020 8:20 am
Sloppy
Member Since: 17 Jul 2013
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 141
Great write up, thanks for sharing.
Just too add, i got a d4 prior to my current one, had competed around 8-9k if i remember since its last service, no lights etc but i checked oil as i planned to service it as the new owner, its was scandalously low, like a few pints in it...
15th Jan 2020 5:02 pm
Gary_P
Member Since: 03 May 2016
Location: Kent
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This was a sweepstake on "snapped cranks" wasn't it?
Not sure I see the relevance of oil pump failures? What am I missing?Gary
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15th Jan 2020 7:00 pm
galwaygreen
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hope you send the photos to landrover
17th Feb 2020 11:31 pm
lynalldiscovery
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Interesting thread on facebook, local land rover specialist reckon they have done 50/60 D4 crank fialures in the last 12 months!.
Times that by the amount of land rover independents in the UK!
Never mind several other 3.0 v6 engine issues, chains/pistons etc.
25th Feb 2020 8:52 pm
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That argument has been trotted out for years though ...doesn't really change the fact that the failure rates are pretty average.21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
25th Feb 2020 9:49 pm
Gareth Site Moderator
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Saw my first D4 snapped crank in the metal today! Independent specialist in Stockport has it on display in the shop.
Yes it looks scary, but he says it’s the first one he’s seen, and it didn’t come from a vehicle they looked after. Good job because they are doing the belts and 7 year service on mine in 3 weeks!
He reckons quality oil is everything in a D4, and make sure there’s enough of it. Admittedly difficult with the lack of traditional dipstick!
25th Feb 2020 10:22 pm
AKDisco3
Member Since: 19 Feb 2020
Location: birmingham
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knwatkins wrote:
41, here's mine...
Click image to enlarge
I'm going to make something from it at some point.
Congrats Andy!
Too far gone for a regrind?
Alan.
11th Mar 2020 12:45 pm
Steamyrotter
Member Since: 03 Jul 2017
Location: Somewhere near Somewhere else in Somerset
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waterbuoy wrote:
A question for Joe if I may - can you confirm if the '150k' expectation is a (relatively) standard across JLR and/or the wider industry, and are these figures (ie the design life) available for other vehicles?
Thanks in advance
WB
When I had an E53 X5 with "lifetime" sealed gearbox (Look at the failures those gearboxes had!! (5sp GM))
I asked a local dealer what they consider "Lifetime"
Response was "The life of the vehicle".. Typically vague.
When further pushed was quoted "100k miles or 6 years"
So LR appear significantly better in comparison.If things were meant to be easy, then I will soon complicate them....
Please note...
Anything I say is only from my personal experience and knowledge..
I don't assume to know everything, and know there is a lot I don't know..
But then I could be talking .. O
11th Mar 2020 1:26 pm
knwatkins
Member Since: 19 Sep 2018
Location: Poole, Dorset
Posts: 716
AKDisco3 wrote:
Too far gone for a regrind?
Alan.
Unfortunately yes. It had already been ground previously.Kev
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11th Mar 2020 1:35 pm
dgardel
Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: Greater Venice
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Steamyrotter wrote:
waterbuoy wrote:
A question for Joe if I may - can you confirm if the '150k' expectation is a (relatively) standard across JLR and/or the wider industry, and are these figures (ie the design life) available for other vehicles?
Thanks in advance
WB
When I had an E53 X5 with "lifetime" sealed gearbox (Look at the failures those gearboxes had!! (5sp GM))
I asked a local dealer what they consider "Lifetime"
Response was "The life of the vehicle".. Typically vague.
When further pushed was quoted "100k miles or 6 years"
So LR appear significantly better in comparison.
ZF scheduling for our gearbox is oil change every 60.000 - 80.000 km or 7 yearsDiscovery 5 tdv6 HSE Corris Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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