Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
Posts: 10340
just look at your invoice - you'll be able to tell them apart then!!
AlVolvo XC90 B5 Plus Dark
Gone - MY18 D5 HSE - Corris on 22's with Black Pack
Now gone - MY16 D4 SE Tech, Loire Blue, Almond Leather, Privacy, plus some other goodies.
Old - MY12 D4 SDV6 XS Auto - Ipanema Sand with Almond Leather - Plus other niceties, and D4.com sticker
Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
Ancient - D3 TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony, 20" Stormers, satnav & DVD
26th Aug 2016 5:16 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
True.
On the positive side, provided that they keep the same designer, we know exactly what his design for the new Defender will look like...
I wonder if it'll be a bit bigger than a Disco Sport and a little bit smaller than a Disco?2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
26th Aug 2016 5:39 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
Red Merle wrote:
J77 wrote:
Front end is completely different to the DS, DS has dark indicators in the mirrors. Focus on the differences not the similarities.
Disco - light indicators in the mirrors, DS dark indicators in the mirrors. Got it.
I can tell them apart now
See, how hard was that? 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
26th Aug 2016 6:09 pm
jjvd21
Member Since: 16 Jul 2007
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1070
With such wide and pronounced wheel arches the D5 looks silly with narrow inset wheels. A few earlier spy shots had what must be 21" or 22" wheels. The Discovery Vision must have had 22"s and I'm sure the release car will have the same. Similarly when the DS launches online the wheels sure appeared to fill the arches, however the only ones I've seen in person look like a narrow track. 16 D4 Landmark
05 D3 HSE V8
THE original D4 spotter
26th Aug 2016 6:44 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
Not sure about this "filling the arches" thing
Isn't there meant to be plenty of space so that mud and crud doesn't bung the wheel arch up? Possibly not a prime requirement for many D5 owners, I guess?2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
26th Aug 2016 6:56 pm
jjvd21
Member Since: 16 Jul 2007
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1070
Fill the arches as in width to the edge.16 D4 Landmark
05 D3 HSE V8
THE original D4 spotter
26th Aug 2016 7:25 pm
artschool
Member Since: 21 Aug 2016
Location: chester
Posts: 230
RDR wrote:
Agreed, many will be ex Merc, BMW and Audi owners so build quality and customer care will need to be upto scratch. I was a total Audit nut at one stage owning many from new and would have gone ballistic over the issues i have had with my current car if it was from Audi. I think we are a bit soft on Landrover at times as if it just comes with the territory of owning a LR the potential new customers will not be as soft
totally agree. i came from mercedes and the finish is better than the LR.
but of course i don't care because its a LR
26th Aug 2016 7:54 pm
fat bloke
Member Since: 07 Aug 2006
Location: OXFORD
Posts: 1255
walked into a mercedes dealership to see my daughter a couple of years back when sat in a ML the salesman said what you got ? Discovery he said walk away these are crap compaired to yours,great salesmanship regarding they are trying to sell these.
26th Aug 2016 9:04 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
Sales people can be honest 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
26th Aug 2016 9:22 pm
Canburne
Member Since: 15 Jan 2013
Location: Devon
Posts: 2036
fat bloke wrote:
walked into a mercedes dealership to see my daughter a couple of years back when sat in a ML the salesman said what you got ? Discovery he said walk away these are crap compaired to yours,great salesmanship regarding they are trying to sell these.
Apparently the salesman became a politician - just need to work out who it is!! .
"the inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings....the inherent vice of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries" Winston Churchill
2016 D4 Landmark Club Waitomo ...or is it Club Tempest????
2015 D4 HSE Aintree Green
26th Aug 2016 10:35 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
Reading a few online rumours and they reckon the 2.0 will be as much as 400KGs lighter than the current D4.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
27th Aug 2016 11:06 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
I'd be curious to know how much of that is due to the aluminium body and how much is due to supplying it with 2/3rds of an engine 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
Wonder what the weight distribution will be like. If they're primarily shaving weight off the body/chassis it's likely to shift the balance forward.Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
Freelander 2 2007 HSE Manual Tambora Flame
Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off )
Disco 3 06 reg B7S Manual Rimini Red
Disco 2 TD5 Y reg ES Manual Blue - Chipped
Several Discovery 300 TDis
27th Aug 2016 12:22 pm
RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2260
wasn't the new FFRR something like 300-400 KG lighter than the previous? hopefully its the aluminium doing its trick.MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
27th Aug 2016 12:33 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13445
LR spouted 400kg weight savings with the aluminium FFRR and RRS2 but it actually only seemed to apply to most basic version. Once the magazines started to test the representative models they found the weight was much closer to the old versions. I'd expect a real-world D5 weight to be no more than 200kg lighter than D4.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
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