Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
NoDo$h wrote:
I suspect Gerry Mcgovern doesn't like "his" cars being used for mundane stuff like carrying things.
Did you read his Pythonesque comments about fitting a roof rack to a "his" Disco?! 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
4th Oct 2016 7:41 am
fisherman
Member Since: 16 Jan 2007
Location: Hornchurch Essex
Posts: 1789
I still don't understand what all the fuss is about. It had to be updated into something more modern. LR are a business who sell cars so they are trying to sell more of them, I think they're succeeding. The D3/4 was old despite it's incredible ability it was old, 12 years old which is prehistoric for a car. They have done what they had to do and some compromise had to be made. The rear event seating is there for those who couldn't live without it, it never really bothered me. The seats in my 4 crush a little but I don't leave the back down any longer than I need to. The seat moving in the 3/4 is a chore compared to most cars so the electric system takes the chore away. I like that they overcome the chores and make them easier. The reversing a trailer bit with the TR knob may prove interesting, I can do very well without and have for 26 years but I'm also willing to give it a go. I don't have to use it. The shape is following the family of LR and something too akin to what it was would have stuck out like a sore thumb. If you look at any other make they'll follow the design of their stablemates.
I like what I see so far and will reserve judgement until I see it in the flesh and have a play.FFRR 2017 4.4SDV8 Autobiography. Cost so much I must be mad!
D4 HSE 2012 Like a second wife, more expensive but goes better! I almost cried this time!
D3 HSE 2006 (Almost 8 years together, true love)
Land Cruiser VX 1994 11 years together, wife cried when I p/ex'd for my D3
4th Oct 2016 7:42 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
To answer that, I don't give a damn about it being more modern (though I can understand that this is important to a lot of people). What I do care about is it being at least as good and preferably better.
What we've got is undeniably "modern", but its function has been badly compromised by the need to be modern.
It would be a bit like VW building a new Tranporter van that all the surfing "dudes" love and then acting all surprised when the "reactionary" commercial users get hacked off about it being impossible to load a pallet into it anymore! Simply telling them how modern it is and how dated their old one was would be pretty meaningless.2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
4th Oct 2016 7:57 am
fisherman
Member Since: 16 Jan 2007
Location: Hornchurch Essex
Posts: 1789
Do you really think it's worse? It has compromise in some areas but improved in others. It's not going to continue as is because only us lot will buy it and that isn't enough. It has to appeal to a wider market and I for one think they've done a pretty good job. I don't need to fill it to the gunwales ever really so a compromise on load capacity by a relatively small margin is acceptable to me. Most people will be the same. If you need bigger where do you go?FFRR 2017 4.4SDV8 Autobiography. Cost so much I must be mad!
D4 HSE 2012 Like a second wife, more expensive but goes better! I almost cried this time!
D3 HSE 2006 (Almost 8 years together, true love)
Land Cruiser VX 1994 11 years together, wife cried when I p/ex'd for my D3
4th Oct 2016 8:03 am
Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
Posts: 15496
The biggest thing that won over D3 haters was when they got in a drove the car, they then realised how their D1 and D2s were. How many on here have driven the D5? DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S
4th Oct 2016 8:09 am
APL
Member Since: 14 Sep 2011
Location: Europe
Posts: 1130
It's the cost that worries me still. The only way I would be able to justify one (outside of my enthusiasm for the Discovery as a whole) is if they do give us the Utility models with high spec here in Ireland. And from talking around that's the view of most Irish based enthusiasts/potential buyers too. 95% of sales here since 1991 have been for Commercial or Utilitiy versions, and if they drop that option sales will fall dramactially. Just because the road tax has dropped to a better level, it's still not at the level of commercial tax yet, and being able to reclaim VAT is extremely important here.
I predict chaos and the loss of several dealerships through poor sales if the local distributor doesn't do the sensible thing and bring in a reasonably high spec Utility version with options.2016 Discovery 4 Commercial
2019 Discovery 5 HSE
4th Oct 2016 8:19 am
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
I have my doubts but I'm optimistic and looking forward to trying it, it should be a good drive and will suit what I use it for.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
4th Oct 2016 8:25 am
mac4RS
Member Since: 20 Jun 2015
Location: Colchester
Posts: 129
IMHO...
I thought that the brand was split into two; Range Rover & Land Rover. I obviously (wrongly) assumed that the Range Rovers were for the 'er' Range Rover lot and the Land Rover were for peeps that wanted a practical non flashy functional go everywhere vehicle. There's already 3/4 JLR vehicles with same type shape, and now there is another...
What's wrong with keeping something original'ish (Porsche has kept the 911 theme running for the last hundred million years) - so why not the Discovery?
This is more about competing with all the Uber Wagon lot. And I'm sorry, but most of them are so tediously boringly crap to look at now...the new Defender stands no chance.
Yes it will sell in it's zillions and be a sales success, but and maybe JLR should ditch the Land Rover name and just call them all Range Rovers. "Business is business after all" and wouild suit their brand image.Communication is the breakfast of champions...
4th Oct 2016 3:45 pm
RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2260
fisherman wrote:
Do you really think it's worse? It has compromise in some areas but improved in others. It's not going to continue as is because only us lot will buy it and that isn't enough. It has to appeal to a wider market and I for one think they've done a pretty good job. I don't need to fill it to the gunwales ever really so a compromise on load capacity by a relatively small margin is acceptable to me. Most people will be the same. If you need bigger where do you go?
I love it from what i have seen but I can't really go any smaller boot space wise as I'm pushing it with the D4 as is. D4 is old and I really want it to have more technology and power which this gives but I have to stay practical. I desperately want to keep the permagrin, if the boot doesn't suit then I'm gonna have to go down a Custom T6 route which is really the only place I can see I can go. The D4 stopped me having to do that but the D5 may not looking at it MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
4th Oct 2016 6:19 pm
D4MY2014
Member Since: 15 Jun 2014
Location: London
Posts: 71
While not seen the D5 in the flesh yet, based on comments on this forum seems like I'll be keeping my D4 until the next Defender arrives!
I'd like to see the 'virtual' loading of oversized or long items into the boot of the D5. I'm still unsure how you secure the single piece tailgate down when you've got items sticking out. Perhaps they've engineered anchor points into the inside of the tailgate?16 D4 Landmark
05 D3 HSE V8
THE original D4 spotter
5th Oct 2016 3:47 pm
Walkzinho
Member Since: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Chester
Posts: 140
I bet on the road it'll look far better than you all imagine.
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6th Oct 2016 11:43 am
APL
Member Since: 14 Sep 2011
Location: Europe
Posts: 1130
I've just seen a great reason for purchasing the new Discovery.... (and it's not in the brochure AFAIK)...
There's an internal tent available....!
Didn't know that until dealer just happened to mention it to me earlier today!
Looks good.2016 Discovery 4 Commercial
2019 Discovery 5 HSE
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their D1 and D2s were. How many on here have driven the D5? 
