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ooh, is the second one the full size Discovery?? MY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
Prospeed rock/tree sliders w/steps
HSE Winter wheels
TransK9 B24
Travall Cargo Guard
Hatchbag
28th Jun 2014 2:24 pm
Florafauna
Member Since: 19 Nov 2013
Location: Bures, Essex
Posts: 69
A couple of small points....(think Kate Moss!)
1. The FFD5 wont have the suicide doors - I cant believe anyone thinks they'll really appear. LR said they were on to show journalists the interior properly.
2. My experience with the D4 is that the split tailgate is great for sitting on but not so great when you are loading 500kg of gravel into the back in 30kg bags - in fact any heavy load that cant be pushed into the back is a bit of a nightmare. My back is only so strong. The solution they came up with looks interesting but as someone said - wheres the tow hitch (Im quite sure it WILL be there on the final version - you cant have a Disco without one - think caravans etc), and where is the spare wheel?
While I'm at it - LR said the single tailgate allowed a larger boot opening - Great.
They said it would be a max of one inch longer than the current D4 but be bigger inside - Great.
If anyone thinks the current 'brick on wheels' (which I love btw) will make it through to the D5 has to be living in another era surely. Slick aerodynamics help economy and reduce wind noise - does anyone object to that? Not that I think the concept looked great - there's definitely something wrong.
LR said the next FFD will move upmarket - Autocar said there will be a lower end version of the full size one at say £35k - £50k. I imagine that will be the one most of us here will be after?
Oh, one more thing (aka Apple) - I dont think they'll release the new D5 until they have a new 6 cylinder engine - it could be some time
I'll start saving now.MegaSTUPID BREXIT
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996 turbo cab - a dream come true
VXR220 - Epic Track Car
D2 - V8 - Agricultural bankruptcy but what fun! - Long gone but missed
Bruce ...stop whining ...you'll be too old to drive by time it comes out anyway
Ballcocks DG...that was an ageist statement...not particularly PC
+ the fact we all get old together
Unless you & others are all Peter Pans
if it comes out e/o 2015 it only makes me 93 & a bitBREXIT - done properly.
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Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
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VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
1. The FFD5 wont have the suicide doors - I cant believe anyone thinks they'll really appear. LR said they were on to show journalists the interior properly.
....The concept RRS had a weird set of doors...its still on open show in Gaydon.....Personally I dont hunk LR will take the iso with something futuristic & a risk to the model line & mass market sales aimed
Florafauna wrote:
2. My experience with the D4 is that the split tailgate is great for sitting on but not so great when you are loading 500kg of gravel into the back in 30kg bags - in fact any heavy load that cant be pushed into the back is a bit of a nightmare. My back is only so strong. The solution they came up with looks interesting but as someone said - wheres the tow hitch (Im quite sure it WILL be there on the final version - you cant have a Disco without one - think caravans etc), and where is the spare wheel?
OK see your point...whether it will be what we know & use now or a single leaf standard tailgate.....either do it for me....
Florafauna wrote:
I'm at it - LR said the single tailgate allowed a larger boot opening - Great.
Florafauna wrote:
said it would be a max of one inch longer than the current D4 but be bigger inside - Great.
I cant see how a single door could make the aperture any bigger ?
Florafauna wrote:
anyone thinks the current 'brick on wheels' (which I love btw) will make it through to the D5 has to be living in another era surely. Slick aerodynamics help economy and reduce wind noise - does anyone object to that? Not that I think the concept looked great - there's definitely something wrong.
Whatever the eventual vehicle there is only so much that can be done to alter the cd factor...that is only part of the economy drive....it has to have (I hope the interior dimensions) size..& cant be a TARDIS ?
but...I sense (from what I have heard) that the standard torque converter auto may give way to the ZF / NVG equivalent to the VW/Audi deg system that is being trailed as we speak....ditching the torque converter makes all the difference....the clutches from Valeo W2 organic friction material
Florafauna wrote:
said the next FFD will move upmarket - Autocar said there will be a lower end version of the full size one at say £35k - £50k. I imagine that will be the one most of us here will be after?
...it has to be a range with a high faulting top end with BLING & at the other that bargain basement ..daft as LR are they are not that daft...you have to appreciate the market sector that the Disco has invaded & taken over from the Jap Jeeps
Florafauna wrote:
, one more thing (aka Apple) - I dont think they'll release the new D5 until they have a new 6 cylinder engine - it could be some time...
The engine will be shared with XF & the Jag cross over plus maybe the top end XE vehicles...true that could design & make it them selves...but economies of scale emanate from another cooperative venture (Ford, Citroen, Peugeot + I reckon Fiat)BREXIT - done properly.
Right now ...We need Government - not Politics
Save the Dipstick Flagbearer-keep it simple, less likely to fail campaign-agenda items:Starting Handles, Acetylene Lamps.
Founder: Dipsticks-R-Us Inc
D3 HSE-perfectly formed, passenger friendly...has real DIPSTICK
Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
28th Jun 2014 8:06 pm
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20805
Quote:
I sense (from what I have heard) that the standard torque converter auto may give way to the ZF / NVG equivalent to the VW/Audi deg system that is being trailed as we speak....ditching the torque converter makes all the difference....the clutches from Valeo W2 organic friction material
The torque convertor has given way for an electric motor
Quote:
The system works like this: a 35kW electric motor is packaged within the ZF eight-speed gearbox, sitting between the ratios and the engine itself and taking the place of the torque converter. Meanwhile, the fuel tank is smaller to make way for the lithium-ion battery pack, which powers the electric motor. Back off the throttle and the coasting engine charges the battery. Brake lightly and all the retardation comes from the regenerative braking system, which also feeds charge back to the battery. Brake harder and a blend of brake-pad friction and regenerative braking combines to stop you.
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
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Aren't lithium-ion batteries the ones that like to start fires on the 787s?
28th Jun 2014 8:58 pm
~Rich~
Member Since: 16 Mar 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 628
I couldn't find if this Utube Video had already been linked:
Walk around view.2014 SDV6 HSE White, LLAMS Height Controller, Tinted Glass, Tuff Ant Sliders and 18" steel wheels, Safari Snorkel, Rhino Rack Platform, ARB Air Compressor, Custom Drawer and storage unit -http://www.box.com/s/jem0ilac3cner2mexq64 UHF CB, 4x4 Intellegence RWC, 120ltr Long range tank, Rock Sliders and Compressor protection plate Beanie grill, De Tango.
& are indeed - patenting hybrid systems
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publication...&KC=A1
.....look on espacenet (link above - the patents library & search for Jag Landrover) lots of recents in there...
the link points to a hybrid control systemBREXIT - done properly.
Right now ...We need Government - not Politics
Save the Dipstick Flagbearer-keep it simple, less likely to fail campaign-agenda items:Starting Handles, Acetylene Lamps.
Founder: Dipsticks-R-Us Inc
D3 HSE-perfectly formed, passenger friendly...has real DIPSTICK
Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
29th Jun 2014 12:11 pm
Gazellio
Member Since: 09 Jan 2011
Location: Chilterns
Posts: 4130
10th Mar 2015 2:15 pm
Russell
Member Since: 24 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 10564
Where was that and is it the concept or real thingMY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club
10th Mar 2015 2:33 pm
Gazellio
Member Since: 09 Jan 2011
Location: Chilterns
Posts: 4130
Its Discovery Sport for sale here at Geneva Motor Show.
10th Mar 2015 2:44 pm
petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1135
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50976
That info was released last year Peter so I've merged it in here 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
25th May 2015 6:41 pm
petersw
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