B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
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I spoke to the guys at Pentland Cupar and Edinburgh and they both said the same thing, there won't be any cars available to drive, until the very end of February or the beginning of March. They themselves don't go down to the factory until the end Jan/Feb for the dealer training. Where are you getting a test drive in January ?
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 2nd Dec 2016 4:37 pm |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
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My salesman told me yesterday test drive in January (at the dealership) with delivery late March.
We had test drives in the DS before the dealers had training, LR representatives were on hand. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 2nd Dec 2016 5:03 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
Posts: 3005
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Thats good to know that test drives will be available in January  What branch are you using, Cupar ?
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| 2nd Dec 2016 5:15 pm |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
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Cupar, dealt with them for years 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 2nd Dec 2016 5:19 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
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I was at Cupar last Friday morning picking my car up after some warranty work, that's when I was told they weren't getting a test drive car in until Feb/March at the earliest. I think they need to get their story straight, especially since it was Fraser that told me that  Let me know if you get a January date
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| 2nd Dec 2016 5:28 pm |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
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I'll let you know
I'll send my salesman a text tomorrow to confirm the exact month test drives are planned. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 2nd Dec 2016 6:10 pm |
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stick
Member Since: 13 Jan 2010
Location: hants
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I heard (third hand) that they keep finding new problems- especially with the electrics- and all dates keep slipping as a consequence. I don't think you need to get your driving gloves on for a bit.... d4 HSE
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| 2nd Dec 2016 7:00 pm |
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petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1135
 
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I thought that the FFRR was testing the D5's electrics for the past 3 years ? Peter
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| 2nd Dec 2016 9:12 pm |
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crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
Posts: 5011
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Must be the power folding seats or the activity platform then...
Think how distressing it'll be to pay £75k and not be able to fold the seats from your phone! 2005 D3 HSE
2011 D4 Landmark
2016 D4 HSE Lux
2017 Ford Tourneo VR46
Club Waitomo
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| 2nd Dec 2016 11:13 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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CC: I would like to meet (and shake the hand of) whoever it was that hacked LR's market research software and implanted the idea that App controled, electrically folding, rear seats would be a good idea!
Not only did LR fall for it, but he/she indirectly even got Bear Grylls to humiliate himself in an advert too 
Whoever it is that writes those April the 1st spoof adverts for BMW is going to have to work hard to better that one! 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 3rd Dec 2016 12:14 am |
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petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1135
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It's good to be able to use an app to check cars whereabouts & report theft & lock car turn lights off shut windows etc.
My spec is £66k HSE with good options. (My opinion & my choice) I payed £55k for D4 four years ago so although expensive I'm not shocked.
The folding seats is an option that I'm not having, choosing cooling seats instead. Peter
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| 3rd Dec 2016 8:56 am |
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dubbs
Member Since: 18 Apr 2012
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 3626
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Cooling seats are surprisingly good - had them on my Saab 15 years ago. Assuming they have perforated leather for that option or it'd not work that well.
The prices for the new Discovery are crazy - whilst we could probably just about afford one if we wanted to, that's such a serious chunk of change for having "not a Range Rover" - It really staggers me that despite what's going on in the world there's really that many people around with that much money.
Either that or we're simply seeing everyone buying these things on the "tick" with no real intention of ever owning.
Ultimately what we are seeing here, I believe, is Range Rover now consigned to executive limo and S Class/ 7 series territory and for those that are "land" rather than "spreadsheet" the car to replace that classic Range Rover for the dogs, hunt, shoot is a D5 - true levels of utility with luxury MY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
Prospeed rock/tree sliders w/steps
HSE Winter wheels
TransK9 B24
Travall Cargo Guard
Hatchbag
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| 3rd Dec 2016 9:08 am |
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petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
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The seats are perforated leather even those not cooled.
I have a small farm/business so that pays for car it's my "business tool"
Once it arrives I will report on off road ability compared to D4 have some interesting tracks 8)
I normally change at 3 years but held on for D5 time will tell is I've made the correct decision. Peter
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| 3rd Dec 2016 9:21 am |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
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Red Merle wrote:CC: I would like to meet (and shake the hand of) whoever it was that hacked LR's market research software and implanted the idea that App controled, electrically folding, rear seats would be a good idea!
Not only did LR fall for it, but he/she indirectly even got Bear Grylls to humiliate himself in an advert too
Whoever it is that writes those April the 1st spoof adverts for BMW is going to have to work hard to better that one!
Of all the convesations on here and elesewhere for features and enhancements, I cannot recall one anywhere that said 'Geat car but if only I could fold my seats from my phone'. To be honest its such a daft idea. The speed and ease of reconfigering the seats in the current D4 is so simple, quick and easy. It really was a design master stroke. Now you've got to stand, wait, twiddle your thumbs and pray the motors and electrics don't break. What do you do if they break and stop half way? It also adds unnecassary weight, which LR has been trying to reduce - one of the reason why there is no split tail gate. Its such a stupid idea. Just becuase you can doesn't mean you should.
I'm off to see it on the 16th, but I will really need to beconvinced it meets my needs and fits in with our family lifestyle before parting with £70K+. However, at that money I'm moving towards GWagon territory which might suit us better or I wait for the new Defender. I feel frustrated that the best car I have ever owned may yet be my last LR product. D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner 
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D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
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| 3rd Dec 2016 9:46 am |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
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I buy my car on PCP, and don't really care about owning.
My spec is £54k, mainly because I opted for a premium metallic, because LRs colour palette is woeful. I was interested in the S spec but I can't get the 3.0 or upgrade the halogen headlights. Now the rest of the range has LED units surely xenons should've been standard?
Current spec:
SE TD6
Namib Orange
Privacy glass
Linear aluminium finisher
Heated steering wheel 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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