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At least Landrover have improved the electrics in the D5.
Heslop explains that the fording maximum is set at 900mm "because after that it floats". Land Rover has a test where the vehicle is put into a water tank at up to 30 per cent greater depth than it claims, all the doors are opened and the vehicle left for an hour, before the poor test engineer has to wade back in and check the vehicle will restart and crawl its way out of the flood.Peter
12th Dec 2016 12:58 pm
J77
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A couple of loadspace photos
23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
12th Dec 2016 1:07 pm
petersw
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Location: Norfolk
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Nice pics
According to my tape measure I can have my dogs cage & still use the 6th seat in back which I'm unable to now.
Will confirm after purchase, but pretty sure.
Picture of my D4
Peter
12th Dec 2016 1:35 pm
green750one
Member Since: 05 Apr 2015
Location: Epsom
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I haven't waded through all 22 pages, so apologies if this has already been raised, but what's the difference between a D5 and a Discovery Sport? They're looking very similar...
12th Dec 2016 3:16 pm
jimbg
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Size?
12th Dec 2016 3:20 pm
J77
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A lot.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
12th Dec 2016 3:32 pm
adam
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Chassis, engines, equipment, trim
DS is basically FL2 replacement, D5 is (obviously) D4 replacement
12th Dec 2016 3:32 pm
green750one
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Location: Epsom
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It's not that much bigger though - 30cms longer, 5cm wider and 8cm taller
12th Dec 2016 4:16 pm
jimbg
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Location: UK
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Well it is bigger than your D4!!
Have you actually looked at the LR web site?
12th Dec 2016 4:21 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
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petersw wrote:
Link to Telegraph here
Interesting 2nd video & a good photo set
Alex Heslop appears to take us for fools and Andrew English could have been more smarmy or star struck if he'd tried 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
12th Dec 2016 6:55 pm
Red Merle
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green750one wrote:
I haven't waded through all 22 pages, so apologies if this has already been raised, but what's the difference between a D5 and a Discovery Sport? They're looking very similar...
The biggest difference is in the way that they are built; the DS is based on the FL2 platform and is made from sheet steel, while the D5 is based on the aluminium architecture of the full sized range Rovers.
The DS uses a transverse engine, a 2.0 diesel, conventional steel springs and part time four wheel drive, while the D5 has a longitudinally mounted, 2.0 and 3.0 diesel and (for the UK at least) air suspension.
Land Rover's marketing would suggest that the DS superceeds the old FL2, while the D5 was intended to replace the D4.
Despite radically different underpinnings, they look very similar to one another and if they aren't parked next to each other (there is difference in size), the most distinctive differences are that the D5 has an offset rear number plate and a slightly squarer edge to the top of the windscreen.2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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12th Dec 2016 7:46 pm
J77
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He says the new Disco is uncontroversial He's obviously not read this forum, I don't think any other car has divided so many.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
12th Dec 2016 7:46 pm
RDR
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i don't think its as bad as the D2 Vs D3 banter now that got really out of hand
Good load space pics above, one nice bit of design is how the smaller part of the 60% rear seat flops down to level to minimise impact of the lack of separate middle seat. I like that as you can still then get steel or wood through up onto centre arm rest or top of the dashboard MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
12th Dec 2016 8:11 pm
ruggedpeak
Member Since: 10 Jun 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 1625
That Heslop interview was embarrassing.
"We re-imagined the split tailgate for the 21st century"
Cobblers, you got rid of it. Man up and tell the PR department where to go to save further embarrassment. Be honest. Gerry runs the show now.
Top Gear summed it up nicely:
Although we rate the outgoing car as one of the great pieces of automotive design – of product design, in fact – LR insists that it polarised too many potential customers . Maybe that’s why the new one looks rather generic.Honestly, if you covered the badges, would you recognise it as a Land Rover? ........."
Could be a Ford Sierra, or a Audi Q something, or a Ssyangyong
The D4 polarised too many customers? Errr, no, I think the D5 just did that.
“It might not look or feel it, but trust me – the new car is more rugged and capable than the old one,” Alex Heslop insists.
Really? No off road accessories, no proper off roading demo, just some easy tracks, short rock crawl and a flat bottomed (prepared?) lake. Not exactly the Camel Trophy. Time lose the PR guff and show us what it can actually do that a Dacia Duster can't.
In light of 'Split Tailgate-gate' I've got a solution - leave the PR and spin to the professionals.
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Tony
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12th Dec 2016 10:16 pm
jimbg
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ruggedpeak, I really bevel nothing will ever convince you !!!!
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He's obviously not read this forum, I don't think any other car has divided so many.
i don't think its as bad as the D2 Vs D3 banter now that got really out of hand 
