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5th Jun 2018 11:08 pm
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DG wrote:
It's going really well....as easy as predicted
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It's a very lazy list isn't it?
Rather than just reposting others' content you could actually think about it and put your own views down...
As for...
- trading more freely: we are leaving a custom's union, the point of which is to apply common customs TARIFFs;
- weaken influence: have you noticed how the impotent Aussies and South Koreans have got exemptions from the US steel and ali tariffs, whereas the all-powerful EU has not?
- Turning inward: we can only vicariously look at the global arena within the EU;
- Our 'hostile' stance is in response to the uncontrolled freedom of movement for half a billion people WITHIN the EU;
- Centralising: what powers that are with the devolved Parliaments are being taken from them? Powers are being added to devolved Parliaments;
- Driving doctors and nurses away: there is, what, 3 times the number of non-EU nurses and doctors in the NHS than non-UK EU ones. It is as part of the EU that these nurses and doctors are being turned away;
As Cameron may have said 'The EU was the future once'...
Then we realised what it was and what it was becoming.
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5th Jun 2018 11:31 pm
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I've spent far too much time explaining my view about it here...all of it still stands. In that respect my laziness extends to those able to reflect my own thoroughly explained views in a snapshot of humor ...or should I say accurate expressions of satire on the subject.
Just face it ..brexit is a bag of and even you know it is
5th Jun 2018 11:40 pm
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This bit is working out pretty much exactly how I hoped it would
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No, fill yours.
The Remain side promised us Leave supporters would take over the running of the country but we appear to be run by a bunch of Remainers, 'supported' by a phalanx of Remainer 'civil servants'.
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6th Jun 2018 12:11 am
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No ...it's actually the typical example of the key Leave backers and political figures realising that it's far better to let others take the hit for the absolute shambles. I mean come on, look at David Davis ...you got to give him his due ...at least he's trying to deliver the undeliverable and is prepared to openly demonstrate his utter incompetence in public rather than just snipe "what we should be doing is ..." from the sidelines by the likes of Mogg and Gove ...absolute wits.
Just today we see EU countries readying their respective automotive sectors into having alternative supplier interests outside of the UK. How comforting for those in the sector in the UK
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6th Jun 2018 10:21 am
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6th Jun 2018 11:06 am
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I was at a big Med tech meeting in Washington this week. Brexit has all sorts of ramifications for the sector. The general consensus from the industry was: What the have you done? You must be mad.New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
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6th Jun 2018 11:16 am
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DG wrote:
Just today we see EU countries readying their respective automotive sectors into having alternative supplier interests outside of the UK. How comforting for those in the sector in the UK
We saw the Dutch government and EU bureaucrats saying that EU countries should focus on EU suppliers.
Much as we have the UK Government hosting events to encourage the development of UK suppliers.
Of course, if the EU is pro-free trade this potential problem will be ameliorated.Black 05 TDV6 HSE Auto
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6th Jun 2018 11:24 am
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I think that the depth of reasoning for them advising their sectors was somewhat deeper than your scant synopsis. As has been evident throughout.... everything appears so easy in brexiteerland.
6th Jun 2018 11:36 am
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Or …….. everything seems so difficult in remainer land ……
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6th Jun 2018 12:36 pm
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6th Jun 2018 1:02 pm
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DG wrote:
I think that the depth of reasoning for them advising their sectors was somewhat deeper than your scant synopsis. As has been evident throughout.... everything appears so easy in brexiteerland.
The depth of reasoning that the Dutch car industry might possibly suffer tariffs on its car exports to South Korea and South Africa if the UK content takes the EU content below 55%.
I'm sure that's well worth the 'Dutch car industry' changing its supply chain for.
Of course, the EU is very concerned about its car sales to South Korea and South Africa but couldn't give a fig for their car sales to the UK?Black 05 TDV6 HSE Auto
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6th Jun 2018 2:10 pm
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The EU will hedge on brits to buy their cars regardless ...as they know that our internal market is limited. The view that we will suddenly stop is BS ...we will just pay more.
6th Jun 2018 9:26 pm
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I'm probably not one to comment having left Holland over 30 years ago, but what "Dutch car industry" are they talking about? As far as I know what's left is DAF trucks and Donkervoort. The latter a low volume car maker. Not sure what happened to Spyker/Saab.
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6th Jun 2018 9:47 pm
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'Car industry' includes cars and car parts.
Latest figures I saw were we buy Euro 1.6bn of it a year from NL; NL buys Euro 1.5bn from us.Black 05 TDV6 HSE Auto
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