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Tripe wrote:
JLR just sacked 1000 UK workers ?
Contractors, not permanent employees. That’s kind of what using outsourced labor is for in management manuals - extra capacity in good times and being let go in bad.
16th Apr 2018 4:08 am
DiscoStu
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Last year was a record year (until this year, which will probably be JLR's highest ever). They take on agency staff to cater for the uplift - it's these agency staff that won't have their contract renewed. It sounds as though permanent staff will move from Jaguar to LR as well, so it's not all bad news for LR (although paper nos for JLR).Disco 5 HSE Lux
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16th Apr 2018 5:23 am
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kajtzu wrote:
Even though Volvo repeats the “every car is built for a specific customer” mantra, the distributors tend to have near immediate stock but they’re always white/grey/black or announced as “we received a special batch”.
Remember though that the dealers are actually independent businesses and ultimately a customer of LR like you and me ...when they buy new stock they have to order it in much the same way in the combination of colours and spec they believe they can shift through their sales force ...so as far as LR are concerned the JIT application still applies.21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
16th Apr 2018 7:07 am
mse
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Tripe wrote:
JLR just sacked 1000 UK workers ?
Well no
This announcement was last week and its not 1000 uk workers. its not renewing 1000 flex contract workers
Regarding builds
Every car JLR builds is sold to a customer - been like that since Leyland days.
What you forget is that dealers buy cars (as do others) and you get cars from them...they have build slots filled with cars they spec, or you can spec, if pre-spec'd but not customer cars (eg deposit paid) then they can be bought by you as they are "instock", or pre-registered (limits) courtesy cars etc...but as a manufacturer they DO NOT make cars to store, they slow or stop production...that includes short running, no weekend opps etc...none of this is new and has been more extreme back in the 07 financial crisisMike
16th Apr 2018 4:45 pm
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Disco 5 sales up 48% YTD
12th May 2018 7:31 am
DaveT
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Still the lowest selling LR model Long succession of Disco's since 2001...
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12th May 2018 7:36 am
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But comparable with historical D3 /4 sales figures ... be interesting to see what happens when the Slovakian plant opens later thus year punching out D5's with additional line capacity for 150k motors.
12th May 2018 9:00 am
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That’s when their residuals plummets DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
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12th May 2018 9:23 am
Dan_NL
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@DG.
I am afraid that JLR will gradually move capacity to this new plant to avoid EU import tax..
12th May 2018 9:24 am
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You are probably right Dan ...but it will nevertheless improve capacity ...providing diesel demonisation doesn’t flip it all the other way of course.
12th May 2018 9:37 am
crews control
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DG wrote:
But comparable with historical D3 /4 sales figures ...
I thought the whole point of screwing the design was so it appealed to a wider customer base? What you're saying here is it's doing well by keeping up with the old model !!!
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12th May 2018 6:51 pm
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The D3 / D4 weren't LR's big sellers anyway so it was worth them trying something different to improve sales. They've tried it and it's not been a total success but it's not a loss either.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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12th May 2018 6:56 pm
Pelyma
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That depends, if they have lost loyal customers for more nomadic ones that will buy an Audi or Volvo next time because it is the latest it Car then they have potentially lost a lot.DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
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12th May 2018 7:23 pm
Somerset Bumpkin
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Definatly seeing quite a lot nowadays. Still don’t like it but it’s personally growing on me but not enough for the price jump. Oddly it’s made me appreciate the shape of the DS a lot more, staring to think of that as an alternative when mine finishes its warranty his summer ( if I can’t find a Defender that isn’t eedicuakousky priced).
12th May 2018 7:25 pm
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crews control wrote:
DG wrote:
But comparable with historical D3 /4 sales figures ...
I thought the whole point of screwing the design was so it appealed to a wider customer base? What you're saying here is it's doing well by keeping up with the old model !!!
Not really, it was an intentional shift to appeal to the those that enjoyed the luxury road biased end of the D4 market rather than pandering to the beardy fatigue wearing types .... but in a diluted market, even within the JLR range .... plus build capacity issues ....plus Diesel demonstration ..... It's not bad ....especially considering hater's didn't even think it could match the historical figures
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