KTM Gordo
Member Since: 18 Jul 2017
Location: St Neots
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JMack wrote:Red Merle wrote:KTM Gordo wrote:LT wrote:Still no split tailgate though 
I still hanker after the original side-opening tailgate, which is what a 'proper' Discovery ought to have: original and best 
As a matter of interest, what were the benefits?
Not having the lower tailgate in the way when trying to get something out of the far away parts of the boot.
And those of shorter stature can close the tailgate without having to get a box to stand on
I had a D1 before buying my Defender, and at the same time had a Freelander 'classic' which also has a side-opening door (as does Defender, of course). It's very much a traditional LR feature whether you like it or not. Gordon
2016 D4 Landmark, Yulong White, SDV6, Ex-JLR Fleet
2013 D4 HSE (Gone! Sold within the forum)
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 18th Apr 2018 5:32 pm |
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RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
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Quote: It's very much a traditional LR feature whether you like it or not.
A bit like dodgy build quality and electrics then? Some traditional features are not always welcome...   Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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| 18th Apr 2018 7:16 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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JMack wrote:Not having the lower tailgate in the way when trying to get something out of the far away parts of the boot.
I’ve never really found that a problem; if the lower tailgate is in the way, I simply raise it. If I still can’t reach, I’m going to have to lower one of the rear seat backs and get at it from that end (with or without a lower tailgate!). 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 19th Apr 2018 9:05 pm |
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lespes
Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: Sitting Down
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Well another day spent with a D5 yesterday.
It confirmed my suspicions from previous experience that for a fairly tall person 6 3'' that the drivers seating position is not able to be as high set as in the D4. The D4 definatley has more headroom than the 5, which is partly due to the front windscreen coming in at a lower angle. On playing with various settings I also found that the highest settings on a D5 which brings the seat forward then caused problems with entry and hitting head on whilst entering.
I was pleased in one way as found having the seat much lower than norm I could avoid head hitting on entry.
I'm pretty certain noted before that being taller the instrument panel was harder to view with its protruding binnacles
Mine was obviously a well used loan car, but certainly from the marks and scratches on it in and out and certainly seemed some of the materials used were not as durable. The dash and door trims seemed to be made of a recycled plastic rather than the leather trim in D4 and the cheap black shinny trims everywhere showed up every mark and touch.
The front storage compartments were appreciated and much improved as by the end of production the D4 had got less and less.
Yes it is a nice car, but still not seeing as on a higher quality level than the last production of D4's and therefore not as good value for money spent.
Hope next time Landrover use taller kids in the design process   D4 Landmark MY16 Santorini Black THE LAST
D4 HSE MY12 Marmais Teal: Gone. Missed a lot!
Freelander 2 SD HSE MY11 Silver:Thankfully gone.
D4 HSE MY11 Silver: Gone missed !
Range Rover Sport MY06 HSE Buck Blue: Gone missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Facelift MY Red Gone Missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Cobalt Blue: Gone Missed!
Discovery D1 Auto Oxford Blue Not missed at all!
Discovery D1 Avalon Blue First LR! missed!
Now demoted to a VW
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| 10th May 2018 8:26 am |
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lespes
Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: Sitting Down
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OK then,
Protruding silly bright silver rims around speedo and rev dials!
 D4 Landmark MY16 Santorini Black THE LAST
D4 HSE MY12 Marmais Teal: Gone. Missed a lot!
Freelander 2 SD HSE MY11 Silver:Thankfully gone.
D4 HSE MY11 Silver: Gone missed !
Range Rover Sport MY06 HSE Buck Blue: Gone missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Facelift MY Red Gone Missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Cobalt Blue: Gone Missed!
Discovery D1 Auto Oxford Blue Not missed at all!
Discovery D1 Avalon Blue First LR! missed!
Now demoted to a VW
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| 10th May 2018 8:39 am |
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lespes
Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: Sitting Down
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Good to know, must of got some bigger kids on the job now D4 Landmark MY16 Santorini Black THE LAST
D4 HSE MY12 Marmais Teal: Gone. Missed a lot!
Freelander 2 SD HSE MY11 Silver:Thankfully gone.
D4 HSE MY11 Silver: Gone missed !
Range Rover Sport MY06 HSE Buck Blue: Gone missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Facelift MY Red Gone Missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Cobalt Blue: Gone Missed!
Discovery D1 Auto Oxford Blue Not missed at all!
Discovery D1 Avalon Blue First LR! missed!
Now demoted to a VW
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| 10th May 2018 12:53 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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You’re certainly right about not being able to have the driver’s seat up nice and high without banging your head on the roof getting in and out. I shall have the pleasure of running a D5 for three days, starting on Saturday, so I shall look forward to that!  2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 10th May 2018 2:37 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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Yeah, much head banging getting in and out of a D5 for me. I also caught my head on the tailgate (the centre part  )
Another reason why I'm leaning towards the idea of a used L405 SDV8 as my next LR. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 10th May 2018 2:44 pm |
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astonbuilder
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
Location: MIDLANDS
Posts: 8135
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Driving around in another D5 3.0d HSE Lux whilst my Jag is with someone else for a week.
I'm still liking it very much and still preferring it to my D4's (for different reasons to many on here, the 'practical' issues are still more than adequate for me and the RR levels of luxury more pleasing).
Any issues of shape of boot, sloping this that or other and whether a split or one-piece tailgate is 'better' along with the rear seats not being 'as high' or whatever are all lost on me now I've been driving D5's more and more. The thing is  huge whatever way you look at it and I see no issues in rear seat and/or boot room/width/practicality/height, etc.
Subject to changes to our car scheme (i.e. the V8 4.4d disappears from RRS) then I'll be having a D5 3.0d HSE Lux over a Velar or an F-Pace or 3.0d RRS, my concerns of the losing circa 40bhp in the D5 engine to the RRS or F-Pace 3.0d are no longer there having racked miles up in D5's now
Still don't like the silly rear number plate and a two-line 'Euro' plate will be going on if I do have one
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| 10th May 2018 5:13 pm |
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AndrewS
Tarquin of the Desert
Member Since: 06 May 2005
Location: Y...... because I can
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Got a 3m long 4" pipe in my D5 today no issues In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 10th May 2018 7:15 pm |
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DG
Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
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Another day of trying to remember what was better about my D4 
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| 10th May 2018 8:42 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23826
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It’s amazing how quickly one can get used to something and forget. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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| 10th May 2018 9:27 pm |
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galwaygreen
Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: plymouth
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Driving position will be a little lower DG cus your wallet is a lot thinner
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