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comedyharvey
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Interesting.
It’s based on ‘the independent group’ putting up a candidate, i.e. who would you vote for IF there was an IPG candidate?
So, if they can grow quickly enough to field candidates at every constituency by the next election then, on that poll, bad news for Labour indeed.
Bit more here
https://mobile.twitter.com/YouGov?ref_src=...r%5Eauthor
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 20th Feb 2019 1:21 pm |
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Sea Raider
Member Since: 01 Nov 2016
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LT wrote:Sea Raider wrote:Quote: Interesting to see how quickly the Putin controlled RT comes to the aide of their stricken comrade Corbyn.
It was all over the media streams yesterday, when I googled that was one of a load that came up, most others were links to newspapers, hence why I chose that one.
That doesn’t change my statement though. 
Thank goodness all other media companies are impartial then 
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| 20th Feb 2019 2:29 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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Not my own words, as I don’t have time, but they echo my thoughts:
“During the discussion on race, Smith wanted to make the point that racism isn’t all colour-based. Many people hate Jews, too, she said, and they are usually white. As she was saying this, she said that it is of course wrong to hate people on the basis that they are black or some ‘funny tinge’. ‘Funny what?’, asked Ms Sarkar. Cue meltdown online, where bitter Corbynistas peeved about Smith’s departure from the Labour Party with six other MPs denounced her as a racist. The media got involved too. Then Smith apologised in a weird, hostage-like video posted online.
The whole thing is perverse. Anyone who has even a sliver of honesty would have recognised that Smith was merely acting out how racists think as part of her denunciation of racism. She was effectively saying, ‘To racist people, black people or anyone with a funny tinge is seen as a hate figure’. She was saying that racists see certain non-whites as being of a funny tinge. I was sat next to her. I could tell this is what she was doing. But she fluffed it, realised it wasn’t coming out right, backtracked, and looked a bit daft. She’s guilty of a lack of clarity not racial hatred.
That didn’t stop the Woke Inquisition from kicking into action. Nothing ever does. And so we had the depressingly predictable spectacle of the two sides in the Labour Party hollering ‘RACIST’ at each other. This is tragically what left-wing politics has come to. The Labour splitters view Corbynistas as institutionally racist against Jews, while Corbynistas excitedly seized upon Smith’s botched sentences to argue that actually it is her new Independent Group that is truly racist. It’s all so infantile and ridiculous. And all the while some of these very same people rehabilitate racialised thinking via their promotion of the politics of identity. ‘YOU’RE RACIST’, they yell as they reinvigorate the old politics of race in new ways.“
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| 20th Feb 2019 2:41 pm |
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comedyharvey
Member Since: 03 Jul 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
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Greening and Grieve apparently ‘considering their position’.
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/...-direction
Not sure why they think May will change her Brexit position, so far they’ve both largely voted against her anyway.
This is becoming a one issue ‘party’, bit like a remainers UKIP.
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Comedy was a horse, Harvey a dog, both sadly gone. Thought I was choosing a password!
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| 21st Feb 2019 12:19 pm |
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NoDo$h
Member Since: 02 May 2006
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LT wrote:Not my own words, as I don’t have time, but they echo my thoughts:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.spiked-...smith/amp/
A lot of what Spiked post is risible at best, but I do enjoy reading their output as a counter to The Grauniad and BBC.
This one is spot on. I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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| 21st Feb 2019 12:57 pm |
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DrLex
Member Since: 15 Jul 2005
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Quote:...their output as a counter to The Grauniad and BBC.
Wow - you’re not wrong; having not seen it before, it’s like a slightly more intelligent & socially-acceptable version of the DM. Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana
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| 21st Feb 2019 1:40 pm |
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adam
Member Since: 20 Sep 2005
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To move the debate forward from an intelligent and purely political context I'd vote for Heidi Allen Now Golf GTI PP, 7 speed DSG.
Ex D3 and D4
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| 21st Feb 2019 4:24 pm |
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Sea Raider
Member Since: 01 Nov 2016
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adam wrote:To move the debate forward from an intelligent and purely political context I'd vote for Heidi Allen
I'd vote for Vanja Hadzovic 
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| 21st Feb 2019 4:38 pm |
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NoDo$h
Member Since: 02 May 2006
Location: Finding new and exciting ways to milk badgers.
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DrLex wrote:Quote:...their output as a counter to The Grauniad and BBC.
Wow - you’re not wrong; having not seen it before, it’s like a slightly more intelligent & socially-acceptable version of the DM.
Bug-eyed rhetoric is their stock in trade. I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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| 21st Feb 2019 8:58 pm |
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leeds
Member Since: 30 Aug 2010
Location: West Yorkshire
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Ian Austin has resigned the labour whip here
Now losing one MP from your parliamentary party could seem 'accidental/minor inconvenient' but to lose 9 in a week??
Surely that should raise some concerns within the Labour Party in the direction they are going?
Brendan
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| 22nd Feb 2019 10:20 am |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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NoDo$h wrote:LT wrote:Not my own words, as I don’t have time, but they echo my thoughts:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.spiked-...smith/amp/
A lot of what Spiked post is risible at best, but I do enjoy reading their output as a counter to The Grauniad and BBC.
This one is spot on.
I quoted that specific article as the author was there in person at the time and thus heard the full context 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
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| 23rd Feb 2019 11:07 am |
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