Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14430
Lots of tea D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
Would getting a Jag engine not be cheaper? Sounds like you have a lot to do and it still might have faults caused by the earlier "repairs".
Dean
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4th Nov 2020 7:50 am
dawa
Member Since: 01 Nov 2020
Location: Velbert
Posts: 26
In my opinion there are two reasons for rebuilding the machine.
A used cylinder head including the needed camshaft i could get for 150€
The seals, bearings etc.:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/264287613653
Timing belts, oil and Filter about 250 €
So in the case that the crank is not broken or other damage there is a lot of time needed and maybe 1500 €.
An other engine will cost 4000 € and more.
In this case there are new timing belts and new timing chains needed. Additional to that a few seals, oil and filter.
The marks which were stamped on the pistons by the exhaust valves are not so deep.
I can't feel it with the finger nail, so i think that there is no fatal damage occurred.
4th Nov 2020 10:24 am
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 14144
Hi
sorry to hear about the engine
See that company has plenty of different kits , fingers crossed won’t need it
Good luck with the project and thks for sharing the pics of ur rebuild
4th Nov 2020 1:28 pm
Discoveringcomfort
Member Since: 16 Sep 2015
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 637
Gareth wrote:
Hmmmm. Loose parts on the camshafts. Exhaust valve marks on pistons.
Does this not sound like someone has had a problem before and not repaired it very well?
Or pulled the head, realised it was too much work and threw it together loosely to get rid!Series 1 V8
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4th Nov 2020 1:58 pm
11891952
Member Since: 11 Jul 2020
Location: Pulborough
Posts: 83
If the replacement head doesn't come with them, get a new set of exhaust valves. Not worth the risk of refitting the ones which have contacted the pistons, now much more likely to drop a head and really mess up the rebuilt engine!
4th Nov 2020 3:19 pm
dawa
Member Since: 01 Nov 2020
Location: Velbert
Posts: 26
Now i pulled the engine and will have a look inside tomorrow.
Then i decide if a rebuild or an other engine is smarter to do.
6th Nov 2020 2:11 pm
LIAMMCL
Member Since: 27 Aug 2013
Location: Northumberland
Posts: 415
Liking the engine hoist
6th Nov 2020 2:57 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14430
Liking the workshop. D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
6th Nov 2020 3:11 pm
dawa
Member Since: 01 Nov 2020
Location: Velbert
Posts: 26
double post
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6th Nov 2020 6:22 pm
dawa
Member Since: 01 Nov 2020
Location: Velbert
Posts: 26
I could not wait so i disassembled the engine.
I can't find any damage but pieces of the timing chain in the crankcase.
The rodbearings look good and the pistons too.
Now i got the problem that the screw of the crankshaft pulley is so tight.
300 nm + 90 degrees.
I can't find any information about the direction to loose it.
Does anyone knows?
6th Nov 2020 6:24 pm
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20844
Member Since: 01 Nov 2020
Location: Velbert
Posts: 26
Ok. Then i will try this.
An other question is, that i found a lot of metal shavings in the oil filter after cutting it open.
In summary i have found these damages on the engine:
- cracked camshaft timing chain with damaged camshaft
- metal shavings in the oil filter
- marks from the exhaust valves on the pistons
I can get an engine from '2015 discovery with 47000 km for about 3000 € without giving back the old engine.
So i think that it is better to get the newer engine and sell the parts of the old engine that are in good condition.
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