RRSTDV8
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We were lucky to grow up in simpler times. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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Grumpydog
Member Since: 10 Apr 2019
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Absolutely.
I would hate to be dating now. I've been with my missus since I was 15, I'm now 45. If I had to starting the dating thing all over again now I wouldn't have a clue!! 2004 Disco 3 HSE TDV6
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NoDo$h
Member Since: 02 May 2006
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RRSTDV8 wrote:We were lucky to grow up in simpler times.
Micky Flanagan sums it up nicely
I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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| 10th Jun 2021 6:46 pm |
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DG
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Says the man who has had a nanny for 50 years  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 10th Jun 2021 8:00 pm |
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grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
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HWN wrote:Lots of people running round Hyde Park with massive knives on Tuesday. One stabbed.
Time to give everyone a gun - that'd deter 'em. What a  -hole London is... 
we just had similar bunch running after each other on the estate with weird "tools"
now we have copper cars patrolling area although one of them gone in dead end earlier and all people out on street were loughing
our youth is getting so much brighter from all BS media and no real interest in simple reading not to mention more complex sciences
we are all fuked lol
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| 10th Jun 2021 8:40 pm |
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RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
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DG wrote:Says the man who has had a nanny for 50 years
And the man that thinks fish are now happy.
He's a parody of himself. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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| 10th Jun 2021 10:03 pm |
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Moo
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HWN wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-8_rs6tOSs
I need to open another bottle. I oddly find myself in agreement with JRM  D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
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| 10th Jun 2021 10:08 pm |
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astonbuilder
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
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RRSTDV8 wrote:We were lucky to grow up in simpler times.
I'm pretty sure most of us wouldn't want to be judged by what we were like at 15-16-17 or whatever not that we were 'bad' all the time but I bet we all had 'moments' that would be totally unacceptable in todays society but we didn't have it all recorded and paraded over the internet or beamed to phones live as it happened.
When I left school and started work (@ 16) my dad took me to one side and gave me a warning that was "don't get a girl pregnant" (that phrase itself enough to get someone up in arms these days) and "don't bring the police to my front door". However his one piece of real wisdom was "act in public like I'm stood behind you".
Wasn't much for fatherly chats was my dad but the bits he did impart had a positive impact on me and I try to live to a standard he would expect.
I did a few stupid things as a late teen but they had no lasting impact but I'd hate to be 'cancelled', lose my job, be ostracised, etc. for a moment of idiocy from 40'ish years ago but the level of today's idiocy far surpass things from my youth; knives, drugs, gang violence, etc. They were there but the minority not the 'norm'
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| 11th Jun 2021 8:24 am |
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HWN
Member Since: 23 Feb 2018
Location: Near Llanybydder (near Puff!)
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And, as if by magic, this is an excerpt from the newsletter of the Free Speech Union on the same subject:
FSU wrote:The hounding of cricketer Ollie Robinson for nine year-old tweets has shown once again the need to pushback against the Witch-Finder Generals. That teenagers make off-colour jokes should surprise nobody, but in modern Britain it’s enough to destroy careers. Toby wrote about this for the Mail earlier this week. We’re pleased to see Oliver Dowden, the Culture Secretary, and the Prime Minister defending Robinson and telling the England and Wales Cricket Board to “think again” over the decision to suspend him and place him under investigation – even though Robinson has already apologised. Matthew Syed in the Times writes that cancel culture “is like a virus that people catch, finding hitherto undiscovered wells of pleasure in the bringing down of people for past sins, stretching back into youthful adolescence. The idea of rehabilitation, still less forgiveness, is ruled out of court.”
Further players have been dragged into the storm since the offence archaeologists sifted through Robinson’s old tweets and even Wisden, the cricketing almanac, has joined in, prompting harsh criticism from fans. The sleuths at Wisden “discovered” one post made by a player when he was just 15. FSU director Douglas Murray says in the Sun that this whole affair demonstrates the “stupid, unforgiving and vengeful way in which we now treat people”. You can read Rod Liddle’s caustic take on the “controversy” here.
Meanwhile, the Greens have dropped their Batley and Spen by-election candidate – the rugby league international player Ross Peltier – for posts he made as a teenager. As long as this is considered an acceptable tactic for bringing people down we recommend all our members install Tweet Delete, an app that deletes everything you’ve ever said on Twitter that’s more than a week old. It’s a lot cheaper than hiring a “social media scrubber”.
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| 11th Jun 2021 5:39 pm |
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darrind
Member Since: 04 Jul 2008
Location: In A World of My Own!
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(For anyone thinking of hiring a scrubber, my sister-in-law can be reached on 01243 xxxxxx (full number scrawled into all local bus-stops)).
This just made me laugh so much my wife is questioning my sanity again Must stop buying shiny toys....
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| 11th Jun 2021 5:51 pm |
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RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
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astonbuilder wrote:RRSTDV8 wrote:We were lucky to grow up in simpler times.
I'm pretty sure most of us wouldn't [...]
I agree with you, but we didn't have phones etc., with all of the baggage that comes with that. If we wanted to get a girl naked we had to talk to her etc., not just bombard her with text messages.
I don't envy them, that's for sure. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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| 11th Jun 2021 5:59 pm |
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Scott #55
Member Since: 15 Apr 2015
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RRSTDV8 wrote:
The same with those who would prevent "unsuitable" people from talking at the Oxford Union. You don't, in my opinion, show how someone is wrong by simply banning them from talking. Much better to debate with them and demonstrate why their position is wrong/untenable/whatever. Nothing like publicly taking apart someone's position in a logical and thoughtful way to stop the propagation of that position. If you want to stop the spread of an extremist view, take it apart in debate and show why it's misconceived. Just banning the speaker effectively makes them a political martyr in the eyes of their followers.
It happened a few years ago when Nick Griffin of the BNP appeared on Question Time. The audience (and panel) howled him down any time he ways speaking, denying him the opportunity to expose his racist and offensive views for all to hear. It would have been far better to let him speak and reveal himself to be the that he truly is.
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| 11th Jun 2021 6:07 pm |
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