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Doc
Member Since: 17 Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
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I installed the Baben supplied TorqTune box a few weeks ago on my 08 D3 S with 15 000 km on the clock. Thanks to Deondef and DiscoEast for supplying a series of pictures which highlighted where to plug the unit into the wiring loom  . Believe me there are lots of plugs at the back of a D3  After impatiently waiting for the motor to cool down, which takes about 2 hours, I unplugged the old wiring harness using two long screwdrivers - one to hold the plug retaining clip down and the other used to pry off the plug. The new branch splitter cable was then plugged in and the cabling routed to avoid all those hot pipes at the rear of the engine - and there are lots of them  I installed the TorqTune box in the main battery box as a 12 V supply is required to power the unit and my ancillary battery is a National Luna box system in the boot of the vehicle. There is plenty of space to tuck the small unit in front of the battery. Using an old radio controlled model aeroplane trick, I wrapped the box in latex foam which substantially reduces the vibration on the unit and hence protects it much better. The whole job took about half an hour, but most of this time was spent routing (and cable tying) the cable away from hot areas of the engine. All in all, an easy job once you know where to plug the  thing into the wiring loom.
The TorgTune box for the D3 only has one programme installed although the manual (a one-pager  ) indicates that four programmes can be selected based on various programme jumper settings. Within the one programme you have seven user selectable power settings from LOW to HIGH. These are given nominal performance values of -3 to +3 in the manual. What this is based on is anyone's guess Is the 0 setting the existing vehicle's programme or something else 
Well enough about the installation side  and onto more interesting things like the PERFORMANCE.
To start with I decided to throw caution to the wind and set the jumper on +2. I started the engine and all seemed fine. By the way, the RED LED on the unit comes on when the system is working. A quick drive around our residential area comfirmed that the power levels were very good.
Over the next two weeks I ran the vehicle on the +2 setting and I am amazed at the power I get out of the engine. Pull-offs are extremely quick and one is forced back into the seat. This is amazing considering the D3 is a 3.2 Ton monster. One just needs to gently push the accelerator and the vehicle rockets along - VERY IMPRESSIVE  . Surprisingly the fuel economy does not seem to have suffered as I still get around about 11.4 litres/100 km in mixed driving situations.
This weekend I decided to stop being the Little Boy Racer and to retard the power setting to -3, which is the lamest setting available. Surprisingly the vehicle still perfoms well but the extreme power is no longer there. This is however still a good setting for the weekly commute. It is still too early to see what effect the lowest jumper setting has on fuel economy.
I can HIGHLY recommend the unit as it greatly increases ones enjoyment of driving the vehicle. My only gripe is that very little information is supplied with the unit about the different power settings. Maybe Baben can DYNO test a D3 with the TorqTune disabled and then compare the power and torque results after running through all the jumper settings - SOME WORK FOR YOU BABEN 
DOC
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 22nd Jul 2008 6:24 pm |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
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Nice report, thanks Doc. And thanks for the feedback on the manual etc. To be a true "DIY install" we need to get the manual a bit more informative, especially for those guys with more thumbs than normal  (not pointing fingers or anything, excuse the pun  )
I like your idea about the dyno testing. Maybe we should make an outing of it, and see who has the most powerful D3 in town? ( I think I already know the answer though, and its a blue one with big tyres.... )
TBH, I did do some testing with my G-tech (http://www.gtechpro.com) which is a fairly scientific way of testing, for a couple of installs, so I know what the 0-100 times are pre- and post-tune. The unit calculates PS if you input the weight of the car, but we never bothered, seeing as the other values were so hugely different.
A couple of other users have posted (and will post JJ....!) their experiences with the tunes and reduced fuel consumption, so again there is data to support the claims there.
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| 22nd Jul 2008 7:42 pm |
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Deondef
Member Since: 08 May 2007
Location: Randburg
Posts: 790
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Baben has gratefully "lent" me a a TTbox to try out for a couple of weeks. I thought the first one was faulty as I did not experience any significant improvement in the performance. I had the second one in during my latest trip and consumption increased, but again not much improvement.
I recenty drove Baben's and Heine's vehicles and my impression is that my stock standard D3 pulls off faster from standstill - Heine has admitted this, Baben has yet to admit
At the top end the other two vehicles definetely has more oomph. My very first driving impression of the D3 is the turbo lag on pull off as well as lack of immediate acceleration from very low speed.
So - for the time being I am happy with standard D3 - who knows, when fuel pressure problem is sorted maybe I get even better performance 
I think dyno testing could be very interesting - the LROC have these outings every now and then at SAC - at no charge for members - maybe if we go as a group we will get some discount - maybe placing a couple of bets on predicting the outcome could make it even more interesting Erstwhile - D3 S '07. Dual battery system. Upgraded tow hitch. Mantec skid plate. Frontrunner rr. Tmax double headed built in compressor
Defender TD5 110 CSW '00. "With everything"
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| 23rd Jul 2008 7:43 am |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
Posts: 2059
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Deon, I am up for a drag anytime  , and will happily put a case of Zamalek on the outcome of a fair test your car (or any standard) vs mine on the dyno or on the road. Remember that you tested my vehicle with the following accessories fitted that would make pull-away (and braking) much slower as well:
STT tyres - add 40kg unsprung mass (10kg extra per tyre compared to standard)
Rear wheel carrier - add 80kg (included the wheel/tyre at 10kg extra)
Second fuel tank - add 140kg (probly more, as it was full)
Roof rack - add 30kg (unless yours was on, can't remember)
Drawer system - add 70kg
so we have a difference of somewhere like 300kg depending on what your BFG's weigh, which is substantial enough (10%, mind you!) to make a difference in take-off.
If you want to compare fairly, I can install my road wheels, take out the extra stuff (except the fuel tank, but I will empty it), and then feed you some smoke, buster!
On the SAc front, I am not sure they would welcome me with open arms, as I may be seen as competition, but I honestly do refer a lot of people their way ("can you help me with fuel injection/turbo/exhaust?"")
Who knows the guys there? Can we try set something up? If so I will bring my TT kits if they allow it
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| 23rd Jul 2008 8:18 am |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
Posts: 4054
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Baben wrote:Deon, I am up for a drag anytime
As opposed to being in drag occasionally 
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| 23rd Jul 2008 10:55 am |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
Posts: 2059
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Alice, you are just a big slut
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| 23rd Jul 2008 11:17 am |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
Posts: 4054
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Name calling hurts 
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| 23rd Jul 2008 11:34 am |
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Doc
Member Since: 17 Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 352
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Hey Deon I cannot believe that you did not notice a performance improvement with the TTBox Did you have the 12V wire connected to the battery I think I remember you saying on the phone that it was disconnected on your vehicle.
On another issue - Heine and Baben, who the hell is ALICE
DOC D3 2005 HSE V8 model, snorkel, nudge bar, uprated tow hitch (12T), Goodyear Wrangler MTR (MT) tyres, National Luna battery box, Outback roof-rack, Takla seat covers.
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| 23rd Jul 2008 7:19 pm |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
Posts: 4054
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My alter ego 
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| 23rd Jul 2008 7:29 pm |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
Posts: 2059
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Deon's loom was the 5v version, which does not have or require the battery connection. THe 12v version is for the latest engines, which have a particulate filter, and is also backward compatible, hence this is the new "standard". There are no 2 ways about it - his vehicle has a problem which existed prior to any of this.
Alice!..... who the is Alice? - She's a big hairy lass, that's for sure
Heine - Sally called, she got the word, says "I suppose you've heard................about Alice?"
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| 24th Jul 2008 3:39 am |
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Doc
Member Since: 17 Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 352
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I will have to meet you guys sometime to assess this Alice properly D3 2005 HSE V8 model, snorkel, nudge bar, uprated tow hitch (12T), Goodyear Wrangler MTR (MT) tyres, National Luna battery box, Outback roof-rack, Takla seat covers.
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| 24th Jul 2008 5:20 am |
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Atacama
Member Since: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Paulshoff
Posts: 174
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The Table below is the tally of my fuel consumption since fitting the little box. This is about 6 weeks worth of driving .with the box connected there is a definite increase in grunt and that little flat spot on acceleration is greatly reduced. I tried to drive as consistently as possible and not bias the readings. There is no high speed driving. Speed limits adhered to. The last week of driving I have been accelerating harder than normal and enjoying the d3. I have not noticed abnormalities in the vehicles behaviour .I think some dyno tests would be good to do. D3 was bought in May 2007.
Setting Start km End Kms Tot Ave speed OBC Fuel Comments
Max 37454 37677 223 10.5 Roofrack , road tyres ,
open road
Low (1) 37667 37814 147 68.7 8.4 road tyres ,mixed cycle
50/50 , 17 deg ambient
'(2) 37814 38020 206 54.8 8.7 Heavy traffic
'(3) 38020 38155 135 61 8.5 50/50 cycle
'(4) 38155 38286 131 60 8.3 50/50 cycle
Bypass 38286 38414 128 52 9.3 50/50 cycle
Bypass 38414 38520 106 71 10.7 reset obc in error
'(5) 38520 38684 164 72 7.9 70/30 cycle more open
road
Max ( 7) 38684 38814 130 68 7.8 Open road .
' (6) 38814 39080 266 32 11.8 offroad tyres towing
brakah with some offroad
Bypass 39080 39367 287 33 13.8 ofroad tyres towing
brakah with some offroad
Bypass 39367 40172 805 39.6 11.9 city cycle with bfg AT tyres
'(6) 40172 40754 582 33.9 10.8 city cycle with bfg AT tyres
'(6) 40754 41456 702 43.6 9.8 city cycle with wrangles on
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| 31st Jul 2008 9:48 am |
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Atacama
Member Since: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Paulshoff
Posts: 174
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OOPs That did not work.
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| 31st Jul 2008 9:50 am |
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Atacama
Member Since: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Paulshoff
Posts: 174
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Setting Start km End Kms Tot Ave speed OBC Fuel Comments
Max 37454 37677 223 10.5 Roofrack , road tyres , open road
Low (1) 37667 37814 147 68.7 8.4 road tyres ,mixed cycle 50/50 , 17 deg ambient
'(2) 37814 38020 206 54.8 8.7 Heavy traffic on one section of raod. Rest same
'(3) 38020 38155 135 61 8.5 50/50 cycle
'(4) 38155 38286 131 60 8.3 50/50 cycle
Bypass 38286 38414 128 52 9.3 50/50 cycle
Bypass 38414 38520 106 71 10.7 reset obc in error
'(5) 38520 38684 164 72 7.9 70/30 cycle little more open road
Max ( 7) 38684 38814 130 68 7.8 Open road .
' (6) 38814 39080 266 32 11.8 offroad tyres towing brakah with some offroad work
Bypass 39080 39367 287 33 13.8 ofroad tyres towing brakah with some offroad work
Bypass 39367 40172 805 39.6 11.9 city cycle with bfg AT tyres
'(6) 40172 40754 582 33.9 10.8 city cycle with bfg AT tyres
'(6) 40754 41456 702 43.6 9.8 city cycle with wrangles on
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| 31st Jul 2008 9:52 am |
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Doc
Member Since: 17 Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 352
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Hi Atacama
Did you calculate the fuel comsumption yourself at each fuel fill or did you use the litres/100 km display on the dash The reason for asking this is that I have notice the display under reads by up to 2 litres/100 km D3 2005 HSE V8 model, snorkel, nudge bar, uprated tow hitch (12T), Goodyear Wrangler MTR (MT) tyres, National Luna battery box, Outback roof-rack, Takla seat covers.
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| 31st Jul 2008 10:02 am |
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