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90BHP
 


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They can fix door catches more easily Whistle

Am I right ?
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Post #33386118th Aug 2008 9:49 pm
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Bushwanderer
 


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They're small all over? Wink
  
Post #33393519th Aug 2008 6:25 am
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IanR
 


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Australia 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Auto Chawton WhiteDiscovery 3

It happened to me to!

Mid June, Keep River NP. Tailgate wouldn't open. D3 fitted with cargo barrier, drawer system and fridge so no access to tools, clothes, food. No phone reception.

Drove 200 k to Timber Creek for phone reception. Rang LR assist. Road service contractor in Katherine asked: 'I don't mean to be rude but why are you ringing me?'

Wouldn't let him near the D3 so drove 800 k to Darwin - arrived at LR dealer 7.30am on Monday morning. Took them 3 days to cut holes in cargo barrier to access securing bolts, remove barrier, slide drawers forward, cut hole in trim of lower door to get to locking mechanism and open tailgate. Found that the cable attached to the locking mechanism for the upper tailgate had snapped at the swage.

Lucky we have NRMA traveller cover (took out as I wasn't sure about LR assist) as they provided a hire car for the 3 days and paid the van park fees for the 5 nights!!!!!

There was a 12 day wait for replacement parts so the dealer attached string to lock so we could open tailgate from inside. Spent the time in Kakadu and Litchfield.

Back to Darwin and the parts were installed in a day. All parts and dealer costs were covered under warranty.

You just have to sway with the punches or get really p***d off!

We were away for 16 weeks and covered 19678 kilometers (16378 towing the off-road camper) over a variety of terrain - Simpson Desert (east to west in mid April), Tanami track, Bungle Bungles, Cape Leveque, Gibb River Road, Mitchell Falls (early June), Keep River NP, Detour to Darwin (Kakadu and Litchfield), Savanna Way (Roper Bar, Borroloola, Kingfisher Camp, Lawn Hill, Burketown) then across to Townsville (end of July) and down the coast to home near Gosford.

EPB: a total disgrace as doesn't like SAND, DUST, WATER or MUD. Had to get it cleaned and adjusted in Alice Springs as it was screeching and grabbing (7 day wait for booking at dealer, also got unscheduled service done due to extreme condition of Simpson sand). 2000k later it was Censored again so went without until Darwin where it was cleaned and adjusted whilst getting tailgate fixed (also got another service done)

Cooper ST Tyres: Staked a tyre crossing the Simpson. Replaced in Alice Springs in 30 minutes. All tyres badly chipped. Rear on drivers side (new in Alice) has ripped off lug exposing bead. Will talk to Cooper agent as I am disappointed with wear.

Tyre pressures down to 12psi (rear) and 10psi (front) crossing the Simpson. Loaded on tarmac 44psi and 36psi. Dirt 36psi and 32psi. Rocks and corrugations as low as 30psi and 25psi.

Pity STC not available in same size!

Starter Motor: On way home detoured to Noosa to visit friend. On Sunday afternoon the starter motor died. On Monday morning the RACQ flattopped the D3 to dealer at Maroochydore who replaced the starter motor under warranty. We were lucky we were that close as it turned out the starter had been slowly failing for several weeks.

Mitchell Bros Tow Hitch: I received an early production unit just before we left. Installed it myself. It is brilliant!!

Overall: the D3 is a great vehicle compromised by some poor design (EPB, Off-road height lowers at 50 kph, ....) poor quality of some components (Tailgate cable, Starter Motor, and ???) and poor dealer coverage!
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Post #33618225th Aug 2008 1:11 pm
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Nat
 


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Our tailgate has broken!

Glad I have joined this fourm, new it would come in handy - we have now go our ipod working in the d3 thanks to you lot but now we have a big prob!!!

Our D3 is 2 months out of warrenty, and yesterday the tailgate wouldn't open - is this a big problem with the d3's as the car is booked into Solihul LR and they are going to look at it for us, but if it is a recall then they will do it under an extended warrenty, is this a recall item?

Nat
  
Post #3560726th Oct 2008 9:01 pm
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Gareth
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I don't think its a specific recall or repair. However I don't think its a major job. If you have been good to your dealer and used them enough (or put enough money there way in the past), they may be good to you. Fingers crossed. You must credit them on here if they do give you the benefit. Thumbs Up
  
Post #3560866th Oct 2008 9:11 pm
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ianv wrote:
Sorry you are having a tough time.

1. You will need to pull cable at both ends of the door to get both the latchs to retract, it may help to have some one outside apply light pressure so the latches move easily.

2. Then you should ba able to push the door outward.

3. you may find enouch space to slide some flat plastic into the latches from inside the car to help them release and not reangage whe you let tension of the cables.

Tell us how you go.

rgds

Ianv


Doesn´t this refer to the lower tailgate?? Original poster was talking about the top tailgate Embarassed
 Cheers

Simon 
 
Post #3560916th Oct 2008 9:16 pm
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10forcash
 


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Does it release by pressing both the lock & unlock buttons for >2 sec. on the centre dash console? if so, it's likely that only the tailgate switch needs replacing
  
Post #3561526th Oct 2008 10:32 pm
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Nat
 


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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Manual Zermatt SilverDiscovery 3

Disco_Mikey wrote:
jdea wrote:
Sounds similar to what happen to me. Just gotta figure out how to get the cover off Smile


Easy once you have done a few. I use a screwdriver to gently prise up the plastic trim, and with a trim clip tool (or another screwdriver) ease the trim out. Then you can release the cable from there. Its a pretty tight fit though Thumbs Up


Hi - What trim are you talking about and where is it located.

Thanks
  
Post #3562997th Oct 2008 10:45 am
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Try this...
you may need a screwdriver to start the process off
http://www.disco3.co.uk/gallery/index.php?cat=13978
  
Post #3564897th Oct 2008 8:31 pm
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Nat
 


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Boo Hoo

£300 plus the vat from the main dealer - It needed a new catch and the panel which they broke to get to the catch Evil or Very Mad

Oh well, 2 months out of warranty and look what happens, I think I will buy additional cover now.
  
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I think this tail gate issue is now beyond a joke! Now it's a warning!
If you have an earlier model Disco 05-06, it would be wise to replace the liftgate latch cable clip
It is not worth the pain........and the cost. It is much easier when you can open the tail gate

JD
  
Post #3572829th Oct 2008 11:46 am
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DG
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Maybe someone should do a poll to assess how widespread the issue really is ? Idea
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Post #3572839th Oct 2008 11:56 am
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jdea wrote:
I think this tail gate issue is now beyond a joke! Now it's a warning!
If you have an earlier model Disco 05-06, it would be wise to replace the liftgate latch cable clip
It is not worth the pain........and the cost. It is much easier when you can open the tail gate

JD


Yup -I'd strongly recommend it as a preventative measure. I'm fed up with folk saying, "What have you done to the back of your hand?"
 Richard  
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I had the same fault with the tail gate not opening. Went to the LR garage told them that the tail gate will open if I push the two unlock/lock buttons on the dash for two seconds. They told me it was the latch button u/s cost £45.00 took 20 minutes to fit. Every things good now Thumbs Up Very Happy
  
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mtm
 


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United States 2006 LR3 4.4 V8 HSE Auto Java BlackLR3

I had this happen to my '06 LR3 a year ago. The dealer used the procedure outlined on this forum - from the inside, pry the trim on the lower tailgate (they left some screwdriver marks on it) to get access to the cable/latch.

Interestingly, last week, when picking up my car from service there, I saw a tech struggling with another LR3 with the frozen tailgate. This time he managed to open it from outside by sticking a screwdriver under the upper tailgate and wiggling it (I assume he was trying to actuate the latch) while pushing and pulling on the upper tailgate. It opened after a few tries. So maybe there's a new method for dealing with this, using some kind of a bent screwdriver from the outside.
  
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