Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
It won't be, but LR are chasing a much larger and less demanding market.
In a world where the best selling mid sized cars in the UK are the 3 Series and the C Class, vehicle choices are often irrational and flawed. I suspect that, while the D5 may be deeply flawed to many of us who currently buy the D4 (in my case, because it's a civilised & spacious take on the Defender theme), it'll be a stylish car that will have huge, instant and profitable appeal to the large number of people that think that an X5, or an XC90, are good ideas 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
20th Aug 2016 10:58 am
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
And if it wasn't for those that think the X5 and XC90 were a good idea then LR would've been in big financial trouble.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
20th Aug 2016 8:08 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
Now that's an interesting thought...2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
20th Aug 2016 9:00 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
I do believe though, that the D4 and D5 could sit side by side in the showroom and both sell.
I'm open minded, I will give it a good look over and if I don't like what I see then I'm more than happy to keep my current one.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
20th Aug 2016 9:43 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
I couldn't agree more that the D4 and D5 could both sell well alongside each other, in just the same way that a reduced range of FL2's could have hung on when the DS arrived. Unfortunately, with production having recently ceased, it's not going to happen.2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
20th Aug 2016 11:02 pm
Stuff
Member Since: 04 Sep 2015
Location: In between cradle and grave
Posts: 510
The D4 and D5 might very well be sold along side one another but the former perhaps not in D4 form.
This is what Supacat does with the present Discovery "rolling chassis and automotive systems" (as they put it):
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What Supacat can do, I'm sure Land Rover can do for the new Defender. Whether Land Rover thinks it wise to adopt a design that means increased fuel consumption to lug a T5 chassis around (that old saw), I'm not so sure.
http://supacat.com/products/lrv400/MY91 110 CSW, so long ago I can barely remember it - sold
MY07 D3 TDV6 HSE with all the extras - sold
MY10 RRS TDV8 Dynamic - sold
MY16 D4 SCV6 HSE
MY16 RRS SDV8 Dynamic
21st Aug 2016 6:47 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
I want one of those! Think of the fun to be had choosing all of the weapons on the online configurator 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
21st Aug 2016 7:03 am
RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2260
Can you get a supacat with split tailgate ?
Next person braking a D3 needs to donate the remaining chassis to discomikey and RLD for a forum project MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
21st Aug 2016 7:18 am
crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
Posts: 5011
It'd be nicer in Waitomo grey.2005 D3 HSE 2011 D4 Landmark 2016 D4 HSE Lux
2017 Ford Tourneo VR46
Club Waitomo
21st Aug 2016 7:29 am
RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2260
Just looked at the specs it's a 3.0l sdv6 but on R17 rims. Weighs more than the d4 too, wonder what brakes they use to get the wheels to fit ?MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
21st Aug 2016 7:33 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Would look good in Buck Blue.
And I wouldn't care about the split tailgate!
21st Aug 2016 7:41 am
RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2260
Go on DSL never mind the Grill or D4 Front conversion you could go for the first SupaCat Conversion your nearly there with just the front seats MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
21st Aug 2016 7:50 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73134
not sure SWMBO would approve of the 50 cal & Gimpy.
Fixed side steps....
But plenty of loadspace....BREXIT - done properly.
Right now ...We need Government - not Politics
Save the Dipstick Flagbearer-keep it simple, less likely to fail campaign-agenda items:Starting Handles, Acetylene Lamps.
Founder: Dipsticks-R-Us Inc
D3 HSE-perfectly formed, passenger friendly...has real DIPSTICK
Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
21st Aug 2016 8:17 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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