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RRSTDV8 wrote:
Moo wrote:
As an alternative to a D5 the Rexton does look attractive on paper.
From Autocar:
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There's no denying that, on the road, the Ssangyong feels a little archaic. The last equivalent body-on-frame car we tested was a decade-old Jeep Grand Cherokee, and the Rexton barely feels a generation removed from it. The uncanny body shimmy, like a jelly fish haphazardly tacked to an oak tabletop, is unmistakable on any surface, at any speed.
The ride isn’t ruinously bad – given time, you adapt (regress?) into the Rexton’s gambol, and merrily loll about with it – but anyone switching from a monocoque-bodied SUV will wonder at the untidiness of it all.
The steering follows suit; over assisted into weightlessness, it needs be cranked almost to a half-turn before it will finally oblige. A quicker setup or better directness would hardly be appropriate given the Rexton’s structural reluctance to swiftly change direction, but the logic of it doesn’t prevent every junction becoming a necessary blur of palmed on and palmed off steering wheel input.
It’s probably for the best then that you never approach one carrying too much speed. The 2.2 diesel isn’t the cheapest to run, with the manual returning an official 36.2mpg, which is 2.0mpg better than the auto.
Around you the interior is large and chunky and also stranded in the plastic and appearance of yesteryear. It’s reminiscent of the kind of low-rent Korean effort that Kia and Hyundai used to crank out before they invested their way to acclaim. Seats six and seven are clumsily packaged beneath a raised boot floor too, but in comfort and capacity, they are strictly for temporary accommodation.
To be honest, it sounds horrible.
Gave up buying Autocar many years ago.
Very poor journalism. If it was British or German, there were generally rave reviews.
If it was Japanese, it was begrudgingly acceptable, but the German or British car still came out the best.
What have they done for motorists over the decades, how many campaigns for the motorist have they led.
Many motoring journalist still quote the stupidly unbelievable fuel figures spouted off by the manufacturers in their press releases as if they were true without questioning them.
Rant over.
10th Mar 2018 7:43 pm
Moo D3 Decade
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Give it time, they'll catch up just like KIA, Hyundai and Skoda have.D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
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D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
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BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
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10th Mar 2018 7:46 pm
J77
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The 2018 Mitsubishi Shogun Sport looks a more robust option than the Rexton. Though it’s a pig to look at if I needed a old school 4x4 with some comforts then that’s what I’d choose.
I personally buy with my heart, if I bought with my head then it wouldn’t be LR. At times I let my love for the brand cloud my judgement.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
10th Mar 2018 7:50 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
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It's only an issue, of course, if one insists on buying new every three years. Perfectly possible to buy and run a second hand vehicle that does everything one wants without any compromises. People selling perfectly good 3yo D3/4 to buy a new Rexton (or Volvo, etc.) that isn't what they actually want seems daft to me. But then my last RRS was bought second hand at 4yo and run for 6 years before being sold and replaced with another second hand RRS. Even now, I feel bad about selling the first one with only 174k miles on it.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
10th Mar 2018 11:03 pm
Moo D3 Decade
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I've owned my old bus 13 years since new. It has nearly 220,000 on the clock and is stupidly reliable. I've never understood those that change every three years. Why take such a massive hit on depreciation for such a short period of ownership?D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
10th Mar 2018 11:43 pm
Red Merle
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Moo wrote:
Give it time, they'll catch up just like KIA, Hyundai and Skoda have.
Have Skoda really “caught up”? Aren’t Skoda just an Eastern European VW plant, selling lightly reworked VW’s, for a bit less?
Hyundai/Kia have come on amazingly over the last 10 years. It doesn’t necessarily follow that their compatriot will go through the same transformation. Think of the perceived threat once shown by a company such as Daewoo; they promised so much but, as a car manufacturer, they subsequently disappeared without trace - leaving a small group of people with virtually worthless cars.2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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11th Mar 2018 6:15 am
kajtzu
Member Since: 10 Aug 2017
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Skoda has caught up in the sense it isn’t anymore an Eastern European company churning out crappy cars for eastern Europen European comrades only
The Rexton has been around for quite some time, I think the current one is the 3rd or 4th gen version?
The primary market for SsangYong obviously isn’t Europe just like the primary market for Chrysler, Cadillac or Chevrolet (the American made cars, not the rebadged Daewoo ones from Korea).
Some MBA somewhere must every now and then blow the dust off a “how to enter new markets” plan and they are present for a few years with varying success until they once again go away for a generation... or the time it takes to change upper management and make the company forget lessons learned
11th Mar 2018 6:54 am
Pelyma
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Seems they’ve sold one more https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/5818...and-rover/DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
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15th Mar 2018 5:34 pm
Moo D3 Decade
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Well that's another reason for not buying one. D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
15th Mar 2018 8:19 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
£30k
Though the rear does compliment her face nicely.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
15th Mar 2018 8:32 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
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It's second hand though. Just like the new owner... Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
15th Mar 2018 10:47 pm
J77
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I don’t think she’s had just one owner either.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
15th Mar 2018 10:48 pm
Bello35
Member Since: 14 Mar 2017
Location: Bretagne.
Posts: 161
Moo wrote:
Well that's another reason for not buying one.
I don't know who she is... but has selling D5s become that difficult that when one sells, even if it's a second hand one, it's an event?
On the same subject, i'm just back from NYC where i spent 8 days. I was very (pleasantly) surprised to see so many FFRR! Saw about eight D4s, three D3s, but no D5s. Sorry, i didn't Watch out for Rextons...
16th Mar 2018 10:26 am
G_Cam
Member Since: 12 Aug 2010
Location: Fife
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D5 .. Sceptum limited edition?? 1 TR6 Rusting away quietly
1 FARR UTV SOLD
1 International Harvester SOLD
7 x D3 all SOLD
2 x D4 both SOLD
1 x Mrs D4 'Panther' SOLD
1 x Outlander van SOLD
1 continual stream of car parts and me living in the garage...
16th Mar 2018 1:20 pm
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