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Red Merle
 


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There’s usually a “finance contribution” (part from the dealer, part from LR) and a dealer discount on top.

If these figures are the finance contribution only, with dealer discount to be had on top, then this is more than normal.
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2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄

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Red Merle
 


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@ Pelyma:

I don’t know about the RRS, but LR seem to be struggling to meet FFRR orders as it is, so have no need to discount further. It’s not necessarily because of high demand, but LR seem to have completely Censored up their production - sadly, delivery delay stories are becoming legendary on 18MY cars Sad
 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄

2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!) 
 
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Same is true of the RRS, hard to get get a car now before the new emissions versions ship.

Lot#s of discussion about this over on the RRS forum.
  
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DG
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Red Merle wrote:

If these figures are the finance contribution only, with dealer discount to be had on top, then this is more than normal.


Speak for yourself Wink
  
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Red Merle
 


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Finance contributions are fixed amounts, dealer discount on top is variable.
 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄

2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!) 
 
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They are usually advertised as a total which is a combination of LR & dealer. I use them as a starting point in negs.
  
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No discounts like those from my dealer as of yet or at least I haven’t seen any adverts.
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Guy Salmon in Stockport are making similar noises.
  
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JLR lost 44% of sales in Germany for LR and 20% for Jaguar.

They will try to even out the sales in other, more willing markets.. Duck

German magazine , Auto Motor und Sport.



I don't know how to get it bigger, so the detail enlarged..

 

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We already know that the EU and UK are negative markets for JLR ...but then this is pretty much reflected in all manufacturers with a heavy diesel bias in their engine range.
  
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Rather surprising to see Tesla down 46% on that chart but perhaps that's just due to their high price point in a wobbly market.
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Dan_NL,

It is a double whammy for JLR with lower sales and new emissions tests.

The new tests are the reason behind the discounts. The UK is not offering any grace period.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industr...nsold-cars
  
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Oswiperus wrote:
Rather surprising to see Tesla down 46% on that chart but perhaps that's just due to their high price point in a wobbly market.


Tesla are a troubled manufacturer, they are struggling to get the Model 3 out to customers. Production is nowhere near what Musk said it would be by this stage and this is before UK deliveries start, yet he announces new models which takes the attention away from the troubled Model 3.
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Red Merle
 


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This is all pointing towards keeping existing diesel Land Rovers into old age, which suits me!
 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄

2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!) 
 
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Really? I think anything less that euro6 will be banned by 2022 and then the progressive screw will be turned further unless a more significant healthy diesel can be produced...isn't Bosch doing something to rid them of NoX?
  
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