Member Since: 15 Jun 2018
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 1738
i got an insurance quote today out of interest. As much Id love to get back into a D4 i just cant justify the cost changeover at the minute so its just for interest purposes.
took a registration number off an autotrader ad for late 2014 HSE D4, and put all the details into the meerkats. Got the cheapest quote back from Admiral (who im actually with at the moment) at £730 fully comp with legal, windscreen and for what its worth courtesy car.
Lots of other quotes all sub £850
Put the same details into the LR insurance pages and they refuse to quote.2011 D4 XS 305 MY12 - gone but not forgotten
24th Jan 2024 2:21 pm
eightfoot
Member Since: 12 Apr 2015
Location: sunny essex
Posts: 810
bizarrely my d4 is due to renew in 2 days its actually £2 cheaper than last year coming in at £334 with Aviva had similar quotes from the meerkat so stayed with Aviva
the wife's d3 came in at about £280 up from £180 last year neither drivers have changed in any way but it would seem a 2005 d3 is more risk than my 2013 d4 this year go figureplease excuse any grammer/punctuation mistakes,i'm thick,thankyou
current vehicles 2005 d3 2013 d4
24th Jan 2024 5:52 pm
itsaguything
Member Since: 20 Dec 2023
Location: Manotick, On
Posts: 262
Surely there is a discount if you fit the MI6 vehicle theft deterrent device…
On the grounds that, that particular thief will not be able to ever steal again.
I blame the lack on proper parenting… if my parents ever caught me touching something that wasn’t mine…. I can still feel the back hand!!2015 LR4 HSE Lux Aintree Green
2013 LR2 HSE Radiance Red
2007 XKR Jaguar Racing Green
2005 XJR Jaguar Racing Green
2002 S-Type R British Racing Green
27th Jan 2024 12:55 pm
eightfoot
Member Since: 12 Apr 2015
Location: sunny essex
Posts: 810
unfortunately in this country the criminals get all the help/pity and the victim's get nothing and if you confront/stand up to the crims you end up in jail because in this country you are expected to roll over and have insurance to get back what was taken from you that's what's wrong now as no one takes responsibility for the things they do but just make excuses for doing it please excuse any grammer/punctuation mistakes,i'm thick,thankyou
current vehicles 2005 d3 2013 d4
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That’s good advice. That’s why I always use a double press on the door handle locking button when I park rather than using the key fob. No signal to block that way.[/quote]
Please explain what this mystical monkey magic you speak of. Press the door handle button twice and sleep better? I need to know. Me and the dog are currently sleeping in the car most nights so that its there for SWMBO in the morning. That my story....
27th Jan 2024 6:59 pm
Gary_P
Member Since: 03 May 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 1679
Haha. What I meant was that I never use the button on the key fob to lock the car. I use the button on the door handle. Pressing it twice to secure lock it. Obviously no more secure, but avoids the signal jamming situation that was being discussed at the point I made this comment.
Stay safe ! Hope you've got a comfy mattress in there.
CheersGary
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27th Jan 2024 7:34 pm
Green Land Rover
Member Since: 21 Oct 2017
Location: Stourbridge
Posts: 412
Just lock/unlock it the old fashioned way with a 2nd press of the fob to double lock.
I've also got a disklok on the steering wheel.Discovery 4 HSE - Aintree Green
Freelander 2 TD4 SE Automatic - Tonga Green
Defender XS - Tonga Green - Gone Now
Freelander 1 Td4 ES Manual - Epsom Green - Gone Now
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2011 D4 XS - OBD port protection, RLD spare wheel protector, All LED interiors lights, Timed Climate enabled, iiD tool paired.
2011 D4 Landmark - Stolen from same dealer before I paid for it
2011 D4 GS - Stolen whilst at dealer ... All LED interiors lights, DRLs, Spare Wheel protector.
1996 300Tdi - Eaten by tin worms
3rd Feb 2024 6:56 am
Farmer Chalk
Member Since: 06 Mar 2013
Location: Independent Republic of Kentishshire.
Posts: 4197
Just playing with numbers… by volume no that belongs to the Fiesta but by number against the number sold definitely yes.. I think the accolade belongs to the Velar…and then various models of RRS..
Interestingly enough look out for both Kia and Hyundai over the next few months…this is the latest peak…
3rd Feb 2024 7:21 am
HairyFool
Member Since: 04 Jan 2023
Location: North Essex
Posts: 704
The stats are based on per 100 thefts (DVLA) which to a certain extents is self fulfilling. If all vehicles are roughly the same difficulty to nick then the high value ones are going to be the better target. Then to source the data from the DVLA skews the figure. Low value low security cars are more often joyriders which may be recovered. If the insurer then writes it off is it recorded as a theft?
JLRs figure works out at roughly 1 in 1000 sold for the latest model which as a different method of calculation means the comparison is meaninglessA visitor from the dark side, my other vehicle is an is still an EV. Strictly speaking its SWMBO.
3rd Feb 2024 4:50 pm
KevinD3
Member Since: 05 Aug 2020
Location: Sutton Coldfield
Posts: 1277
Hardware wrote:
Didn't know know whether to post this here or in the insurance discussion.
jLR seem to be contradicting themselves, or throwing away money. If Landrover theft isn’t a problem, why are they paying the Uk border police £15 million pounds to help with extra searches at the ports to stop stolen landrovers being smuggled abroad??. Would have thought the money could be better spent stopping them from being vulnerable to theft in the first place
My Wife thinks the D3 is a hobby, The D3 thinks the wife is 💕
3rd Feb 2024 9:57 pm
HairyFool
Member Since: 04 Jan 2023
Location: North Essex
Posts: 704
You could see this as a + for JLR. If you make the best car in the market then this is going to be the most desireable for the criminal fraternity.
Is the solution to back up all this electronic security with something mechanical? What is astounding is the speed which a suitably equiped thief can defeat the gadgets and each time a new one appears it doesn't take long for a workaround to be found.
The trouble is at this end of the market people want convenience, I don't think the average Range Rover owner is going to accept the suggestion to fit a stoplock but anything which takes time get past is going to put them off. Perhaps a secondary transponder that requires the key to be docked before the CANBus port will be active
I do smile when I go to our local leisure centre. In the car park is see a "W" reg little red shopping trolley type car complete with peeling clearcoat, it has a full cover Disklok type steering wheel lock.A visitor from the dark side, my other vehicle is an is still an EV. Strictly speaking its SWMBO.
3rd Feb 2024 10:40 pm
pjm-84
Member Since: 04 Oct 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2608
.....and easy.....
One of the reasons I moved away from BMW in 2015 was a targeted theft because the BMW had some weakness. I think the X5 was top of list for 6years.....now its not in the top 10 (and the G05 model is a much better car)
3rd Feb 2024 10:52 pm
itsaguything
Member Since: 20 Dec 2023
Location: Manotick, On
Posts: 262
Weakness?? Not sure about that. Technologies are always maturing and changing. Its just a matter of time when some scum of the earth sorts out how to crack it.
And I am with some others, I have absolutely no interest in a process where I need to flick that toggle, pop the hood, get out a wrench, apply an 8 digit code and tap head twice, to get into my vehicle and go for a drive.
Root cause analysis: I still blame the parents for supporting poor behavior. And the all mighty greed card for supporting the bad behavior and turning a blind eye.2015 LR4 HSE Lux Aintree Green
2013 LR2 HSE Radiance Red
2007 XKR Jaguar Racing Green
2005 XJR Jaguar Racing Green
2002 S-Type R British Racing Green
7th Feb 2024 2:08 pm
HairyFool
Member Since: 04 Jan 2023
Location: North Essex
Posts: 704
How about this for a radical idea.
Why not have a key operated lock that without the key the car won't start.
Damned, I should have patented the idea before publishing it A visitor from the dark side, my other vehicle is an is still an EV. Strictly speaking its SWMBO.
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go figure
that's what's wrong now as no one takes responsibility for the things they do but just make excuses for doing it 
... All LED interiors lights, DRLs, Spare Wheel protector.
