Member Since: 27 Sep 2020
Location: Hampshire
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Jez
Discovery 3 HSE Stornaway Grey
MY 2008 2.7 TDV6
Discovery 2 2003 - gone
3rd Dec 2024 1:20 am
Gnomad
Member Since: 22 Jul 2018
Location: Harbor Springs
Posts: 79
I dub thee the Pink Panzer, errrrr, Panther.
In other news yes Jaguar is truly copying nothing but the name which has been understood to reperesent a certain design pattern. So they are attempting to establish what is essentially a new EV brand at a premium in a market which has not been kind to that strategy. It's an attempt to sell fewer vehicles and sell them at a high price to generate bigger profits, and this has never worked. Heck Tavaras just got fired/resigned from Stellantis because he went for higher prices and profits and now nobody can afford to buy a $60K Wrangler. I worked for a corporation that attempted this strategy in the office equipment world and what happened was that we ceded the lower end to other companies that then stole our customer base.
3rd Dec 2024 2:34 am
Naki Blake
Member Since: 31 Dec 2021
Location: Taranaki
Posts: 325
I'm gonna dare to be different, I really like it. I realise that I'm never going to own one unless I win the lottery.
In terms of the controversial advertising campaign, its made the headlines here in NZ, the opposite side of the world to the UK, so its raised the profile of the marque globally.
3rd Dec 2024 3:35 am
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14482
I like it. Reminds me of the hey day of 1930s coach built sports tourers.
Mind you, it's going to have to be bloody good to succeed.D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
3rd Dec 2024 9:06 am
Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
Posts: 2821
Yep, I like it too.
It's a really nice mix of Art deco, Tron, and Jules Verne.
Perhaps something Cord would be building now had they survived.Heaven doesn't want me, and hell is afraid I'll take over.
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3rd Dec 2024 9:19 am
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13606
Gnomad wrote:
It's an attempt to sell fewer vehicles and sell them at a high price to generate bigger profits, and this has never worked. Heck Tavaras just got fired/resigned from Stellantis because he went for higher prices and profits and now nobody can afford to buy a $60K Wrangler.
But it is exactly what JLR have done with LR - they have pushed the entire range more upmarket in terms of price. But they also did it by moving towards ever greater perceived luxury. And it's worked for them - the FFRR, Defender and RRS account for over half their sales and all are "premium" in their pricing. That they've also managed to increases numbers sold is impressive - they've cleared much of a 200,000 unit backlog (caused by the chip shortage, they say).Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
3rd Dec 2024 9:28 am
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14482
Let's hope they get the D6 right then. D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
3rd Dec 2024 9:32 am
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13606
You just know that "call me Gerry" is going to double-down on the design choices made for the D5. The D6 won't be a D3/4 replacement any more than the D5 was, sadly.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
3rd Dec 2024 9:45 am
MrTed
Member Since: 06 Jan 2023
Location: Rickmansworth
Posts: 197
Hmmmm.... one speed-bump and that's your wheel arches knackerd!Discovery 4 HSE late 2015 Euro6
Jaguar XF Portfolio (PX'd for above)
Mitsubishi Galant V6 (PX'd for above)
Instagram: @mrtedgfx
3rd Dec 2024 10:44 am
Icarus
Member Since: 15 Jul 2023
Location: Essex
Posts: 108
I don’t like it!!
That interior is not the kind of place I want to spend my time. It looks as though it’s deigned to be driverless.
Despite being light inside, it looks too claustrophobic for me. I don’t like small windows. And that huge bonnet!!! That car is going to seem far too big for our towns & cities.
If I were to win one in a competition, I’d sell it on forthwith.
Not a vehicle for me I’m afraid.I’m a Disco 4 believer. What a vehicle!
3rd Dec 2024 12:22 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13606
I don't think this is aimed at the likes of us anyway. It's aimed at a different market entirely and one that is on various foreign shores.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
3rd Dec 2024 12:38 pm
astonbuilder
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
Location: MIDLANDS
Posts: 8147
Can't see that car 'as is' ever getting launched;
- frontal crash impact zone/pedestrian safety
- zero front suspension travel
- tiny glasshouse area way too small - pure styling exercise
- oversized barge for a two seater
Actual production vehicle will be four door, smaller, 3-box saloon in a 'traditional' sense with a few unique design cues. Will be, as many Jag 'mainstream' cars are, very good but everyone will buy a German equivalent as they always have done or, more likely, in Lux EV only models, some top-tech, cheap(er) Chinese model with a silly name as they'll likely have mopped up global sales by time Jag' gets out the blocks......
3rd Dec 2024 2:33 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14482
You can see the inspiration mood boards......
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D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
3rd Dec 2024 2:56 pm
Worms
Member Since: 24 Sep 2023
Location: Highlands
Posts: 415
MrTed wrote:
Hmmmm.... one speed-bump and that's your wheel arches knackerd!
You'll not get as far as the speed-bump, the front spoiler will ground on it before the wheels even get there! Previously:
2010 FL2 TD4e GS
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW - still got this, non-runner on SORN.
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
Series III SWB Diesel
3rd Dec 2024 3:15 pm
HairyFool
Member Since: 04 Jan 2023
Location: North Essex
Posts: 704
So, driving exeperience is irrelevant, the cornerstone of owning a Jaguar today.
At 11:45, two fingers up to 80% of existing Jaguar owners.
Perhaps the long bonnet is to stow the exclusive jaGUar luggage in, a "frunk"
If we swap over driving SWMBO will slip across inside while I go around outside, like to see anyone achieve that with the beam along the middle. Same with both rear passengers trying to get out on the pavement side.A visitor from the dark side, my other vehicle is an is still an EV. Strictly speaking its SWMBO.
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