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luciogodoy
 


Member Since: 14 Apr 2008
Location: Windsor - UK
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Hi all

Is there anyone near Windsor that has converted their D3 S/Wheel to a heated D4 S/Wheel successfully that can help me to troubleshoot mine pls?

All works apart from the heated wheel. I'm using Colons kit by the way. Big Cry

Thanks

Lucio
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ids
 


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@M3DPO

I think you need to take the paddle loom out and swap sides. The side with the big connection should be on the left hand side.

I had the prototype of this unit from Colin back in the day but just changed mine over to some of the production boards last week. the connectors into the paddles may not have a key. But the pins are offset in the plug so don't think you can put them in the wrong way.

From memory they have a locking tab as well so you will know if the cable is in properly.

Ids
  
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Arif
 


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luciogodoy wrote:
I'm using Colons kit by the way. Big Cry

Thanks

Lucio


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Post #140855116th Jan 2015 7:17 am
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M3DPO
 


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luciogodoy wrote:
Hi all

Is there anyone near Windsor that has converted their D3 S/Wheel to a heated D4 S/Wheel successfully that can help me to troubleshoot mine pls?

All works apart from the heated wheel. I'm using Colons kit by the way. Big Cry

Thanks

Lucio

Where have you taken the power from for the heated wheel?- I found the heated part to be fairly straight foreword, more info is needed to assist you!
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Post #140866716th Jan 2015 11:31 am
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M3DPO
 


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ids wrote:
@M3DPO

I think you need to take the paddle loom out and swap sides. The side with the big connection should be on the left hand side.

I had the prototype of this unit from Colin back in the day but just changed mine over to some of the production boards last week. the connectors into the paddles may not have a key. But the pins are offset in the plug so don't think you can put them in the wrong way.

From memory they have a locking tab as well so you will know if the cable is in properly.

Ids


I took a gamble and turned the loom round thanks, it is now working great Thumbs Up
The dilemma I had was the loom and paddles were already fitted and for some unknown reason the loom was the wrong way round which meant there was no 4 pin socket within reach of the plug.
Then I was directed to the left switches and the 4 pin socket, this leaves me with the conundrum are the paddles the wrong way round? Is there a link cable missing? Is the loom the wrong way round? Is the loom and paddles the wrong way round? what happens if I turn the loom round and it is wrong? Shocked
The profile of the left socket and the loom plug did not match, but although it is not exactly the same it does fit and only one way round.

The most aggravating part was unplugging the loom from the gearbox, having worked on LR electric's and their method of fitting safety catches to plugs to stop them coming loose, which is very good compared to some other manufactures that don't seem to bother(Peugeot), I knew there must be a key to release it, it is just a matter of finding it.
Below are photos of the said plug to assist anyone doing this very worthwhile upgrade Very Happy .

This is the plug in the closed fitted position, note the locking bar is horizontal, the tab with three vertical lines on it has to be pressed in to release the bar which can then be pushed it down to the vertical position, this will release the plug.


This shows the bar half open, note the slight damage to the locking gear cause through trying to push the plug in without the bar fully open.


This is the position the bar must be in to refit the plug, pressed open until vertical and it clicks Thumbs Up .



This may seem trivial to more experienced members, but I ain't exactly inexperienced and it caused me a lot of unnecessary agro mainly due to inaccessibility Thumbs Up
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Mine didn't survive the removal - wish I'd had access to pics like these when I did mine.

It's now held in place by cable ties going round the base of the selector unit Laughing
  
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Quote:
for some unknown reason the loom was the wrong way round which meant there was no 4 pin socket within reach of the plug.


I though I had said that Whistle

Quote:
you should be able to see the 4 pin socket on the LHS switch pack. If your wiring does not reach this, then you have most likely got the wiring connected wrongly or got your paddle switches on the wrong sides


Glad you got there in the end though M3DPO and glad to hear you sussed this Common Amp locking tab out. Else I would have to start supplying Cable ties with the Paddle shift Kit.
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Post #140883016th Jan 2015 5:05 pm
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ids
 


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@M3DPO

Well done. Had exactly the same issue. Mine only has one side of the tag and so has a cable tie around it too. Once you have it off, everyone has an 'ooooohhh I see now' moment.

Other thing is who in their right mind uses the same colour wires twice in the same connector? I know JLR didn't design the loom with us in mind but come on..... shocking.

Regardless its a great improvement. Its a shame we never got the paddles to co-operate in standard D mode but hey, still work great in S... I did try various gearbox software versions but sadly my gearbox fell apart towards the end of testing so I stopped.

Ids
  
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pinchy
 


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Would this one work with all the extra bits from BBS? My wheel has got the sticky syndrome Sad



Link to more pics.
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The airbag is a straight swap?

Thanks
  
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Yes that the wheel you want Thumbs Up

Does look heated though Shocked
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Heated switch is there, on the right below the voice command Thumbs Up
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M3DPO
 


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Yes good un, complete with paddles but it is not heated, at least it does not have the heated switch.
Air bag straight swap Thumbs Up

Edit: apologies YES it is heated, picture 2 shows the switch Very Happy buy it you will not regret it paddles are fabulous Thumbs Up
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It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't. 
 
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pinchy
 


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Thanks. I'll need to find the heating coil now Smile
  
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Discokev27
 


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I may have missed it on this thread (and search function) but does anyone know if a Freelander 2 steering wheel will also fit on a D3? They look pretty similar. Cheers
  
Post #143399627th Feb 2015 9:30 am
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M3DPO
 


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No, not without a centre boss modification, not recommended. Look at the centre bosses and they are different, D4 splined, F2 Hexagon.
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It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't. 
 
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