Renton wrote:

Been using it since last Thursday and it defenitely seems that the engine runs smoother.
- On ignition the engine sounds less rough.
- More quiet at cruising speed

But the biggest improvement is this (don't know if any of you expereience the same);
When I am driving and I take my foot of the throttle there is a distinct resonance/vibration/noise when the speed drops. Its not loud or disturbing, more a bit annoying. When my car is serviced and the oil has been renewed these symptons have gone to reappear again over a few thousand Km.
This resonance/noise now has become a lot less to a stage where it's no longer annoying.
Lubrication seems to be much better because of TSL and therefore probably less wear on the engine.....

Can't comment on the MPG at the moment as I only have done short distances and no highway. Will comment on that as well as soon as I have done a long stretch.

I used it for my Freelander as well but don't have feedback on that yet. Poored the remainder into the Disco's fueltank this afternoon.

So far I can recommend it everybody.

Renton wrote:

I also had a 2-3 second rattle on a cold start. Talked about it with the stealer but they didn't see it as an issue. Read more members here had this rattle.
Since I poored TSL in oil the rattle has gone....

And the good news doesn't stop there as just because of that ½ MPG extra
your TSL actually didn't cost you a penny

Hess wrote:

Thanks for the details Wiggy Man.

As to the cost based on the 7.500 miles you're driving per oil change.

If the product was to increase your MPG only 1 MPG then it would
work out as follows.

Old Scenario:
7500M @ 25 MPG with a fuel cost of £ 1.40 a litre would cost £ 1909.36

New Scenario:
7500M @ 26 MPG with a fuel cost of £ 1.40 a litre would cost £ 1835.92

Which would save per 7500 miles @ 1 MPG: £ 73.44

Calculator used at: http://www.fuel-economy.co.uk/calc.shtml

The saving of £ 73.44 will pay for the product itself and will also pay for the oil
at the next oil change.

This aside from all the other benefits TSL adds, like the reduced wear, smoother
running and increased power etc.

So, in conclusion, if you use TSL, it doesn't cost you anything and it'll pay for
your motor oil every single time.

And all that from an extra 1 MPG.

mrszymon wrote:

A link to a generic shell logo on "topnews.net.nz" in their "imagecache" directory doesn't increase confidence much (and searching that Website or multiple search engines for a story or press release of any sort doesn't bring back anything...).
-simon

PaulP wrote:

Hmmm.....I haven't been participating much in the forum lately due to being up to my neck in work, but I've been cringing every time I've read a new post in this thread.

How does a company (that isn't Shell) that buys just 36 oil pens from another seller of this oil (as much as I wanted to write snake-oil I can't bring myself to do it), warrant a changing of a group-buy title to "WE SUPPLY SHELL" and basically saying that they are now officially endorsing the product??

I'm sorry for jumping in when it's nothing to do with me , but this thread is getting slightly embarrasing. I even keep expecting to see big yellow "As seen on TV" images or phrases such as "But wait....there's more.....buy one TSL oil pen and get a second one absolutely free....yes, that's right....another one absolutely free. Our operators are standing by to take your call".

Sorry Hess

Hess wrote:

mrszymon wrote:

A link to a generic shell logo on "topnews.net.nz" in their "imagecache" directory doesn't increase confidence much (and searching that Website or multiple search engines for a story or press release of any sort doesn't bring back anything...).
-simon

The only way you could have got that was by looking at the image location, via right-clicking it.
Because it's just a picture of the forum, and non-linked.

Hess wrote:

As to the Group Buy status of this, the first post clearly states this is a try-out group buy.
I discussed this with Martin and the best location for this was the Group Buy forum section.

Hess wrote:

As for my advertising rhetoric and amazing news announcement, doesn't every product that's being sold
on the planet use advertising? I doubt anyone would buy anything when the seller doesn't bring out
the good points of the product.

Hess wrote:

I welcome all feedback whether sceptical, positive or negative. And how you feel about the product,
me or my actions is up to you and I respect that.

Indeed, I'm glad to be able to have this discussion in an atmosphere of mutual respect while still disagreeing

mrszymon wrote:

I have to say, I question the status of this as a "group buy".

It is not within your remit to question tbh it has been authorised as such and that is the end of it ...a group buy is a collective purchase and although welcome there is nothing to suggest it must be discounted ...it can be done for administrative convenience ...so either put your name down to buy some or wind your neck in

mrszymon wrote:

Honestly I think you'd have gotten just as many sign-ups to this if not more if you had treated it as a group by, without the hyperbole and advertising, but with a small discount off your regular price, and being more honest and open about your regular price.