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Disco_Mikey
 


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How To - EPB repair/Unjam + Relatch

How To - EPB repair/Unjam + Relatch

Had a few of these in lately from other garages, all with condemned EPB modules...

All modules failed to unjam themselves using the diagnostic machine. All these modules were successfully unjammed manually, and all to date are still working, with no issues Thumbs Up
If your module sounds like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcV6vCnib9o , Read on!

From what I can gather, the main issue stems from poorly adjusted shoes, or the lever arm on the shoes have been seized, the motor has wound the threaded rod to its full extent of travel, and jammed itself. It then will not release, and the emergency release cable has to be pulled, and will not relatch itself...

This guide is not a guaranteed fix, but every one so far has been successfully repaired. The module will re-jam again, if the underlying issue is not resolved, so it is always worth removing the discs and inspecting the condition of the shoes

Anyway, locate EPB module above rear diff. Also a good time to inspect the front-rear brake pipes, as this is where they rust, as you can see from the picture Shocked

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Remove 8 T20 screws, and prise cover off the front of the module (only 7 in this picture) The cover is well glued on, and requires perseverance, and patience to remove:

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This is what you will be confronted with:

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The silver part in the middle is the motor, which turns gears inside the white plastic housing, which turns a (what looks like) Brass rod, and tightens and releases the cables. The small white plastic item at the lower left pulls the drivers side cable, and when the emergency cable is pulled, it unlatches itself from the metal part to the left of the large white plastic housing, which is in turn attached to the passenger side cable.

As you can see from the picture, the brass rod has fully extended, and jammed, and the small white plastic box it not latched to the other cable

The brass rod needs to be turned downwards (looking from the passenger side (on a UK car), it would be turned anti-clockwise) to unjam it, and unwind it. Once unjammed, it can be wound back using a diagnostic computer, or manually using a small lever or screwdriver. This picture is approx half way:

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Here it is almost fully unwound. You can clearly see the brass rod unwound on the threaded rod:

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Once you are happy you have unwond it enough, push the 2 side of the cables together to relatch. Compare the metal parts to the right hand side of the small white plastic box between this picture and the next:

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All done:

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Now, put the EPB shoes back together, discs on and adjust as normal. Operate the EPB switch, apply and release a few times to check for correct operation. Once happy, re-adjust shoes again to ensure the adjustment is OK. Once you are happy the EPB functions correctly, clean as much of the old silicone off the EPB module and cover as possible, reseal with some silicone sealer, and refit the screws.

All being well, you will now have a fully functioning EPB module, and saved yourself close on £500 for a replacement module, and another few hundred quid in labour Thumbs Up

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If anyone needs any clarification on any steps, let me know, and I will do my best to explain, and hopefully update the 1st post. It makes sense to me, but I have done this repair enough to make sense to me Embarassed
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Neat.

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Without a 2 post I can imagine it all being a little tight under there.
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Hi mikey
Good fix but if the epb module has been causing problems over time it will have damaged the toothed wheel on the motor
I completely dismantled mine when I did the replacement just to see why it had failed and found that it had worn the teeth down on the big plastic wheel.
I also found that the failure of the epb was probably caused by the previous owner or servicing garage not bothering there Censored to strip, clean and lubricate the adjusters on the shoes and as you know this probably caused the problem in the first place

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But worth a look inside before buying a new one I should think.
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yet another top tip Mikey! Bow down
  
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Another great guide Mikey, although hopfully i won't need this one as i keep my shoes cleaned, lubed and
adjusted(thanks Bodsy). I doubt i would've tackled the cam & pump belts without your guide. Those who
create guides or just give advice on this forum make it a great place to visit. Thumbs Up

I like the jokes too! Laughing

Stu
  
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Re: How To - EPB repair/Unjam + Relatch

Disco_Mikey wrote:

This guide is not a guaranteed fix, but every one so far has been successfully repaired. The module will re-jam again, if the underlying issue is not resolved, so it is always worth removing the discs and inspecting the condition of the shoes


MikeS2005 wrote:
Hi mikey
Good fix but if the epb module has been causing problems over time it will have damaged the toothed wheel on the motor


Robbie wrote:
But worth a look inside before buying a new one I should think.


Whistle Thumbs Up

I would rather have a go myself, before commiting to a new module. A new module + fitting will not be far off £600 + VAT, before you get to the main issue of what has caused it to jam in the first place. By the time you add on the cost of new discs, pads and EPB shoes, you could be facing a bill of around £1000.

Catch it early enough, you may get away with just a strip and clean of the EPB Thumbs Up
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I think its very kind of the locals up here to keep suppying cars for all these tips Whistle Whistle
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Started running out of things to do Whistle
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I couldn't see the bit about pushing the two sides together where it says compare the pictures? I just thinking for future reference Whistle
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I think Mikey meant to say "Compare the metal parts to the right hand side of the small white plastic box between this picture and the NEXT: instead of "Compare the metal parts to the right hand side of the small white plastic box between this picture and the previous:

If you look at the metal piece next to the small white box with the QR code on it, it is closer in the second (or last) picture.


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Gareth is correct. It is difficult to see the difference Thumbs Up
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Do you have any fixed units available at a reduced price?

If so how much and can I have one!!, just till I get under mine and see what's up with it!
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Nope. All units were left fitted to the car, and repaired in place Thumbs Up
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