Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: Borders
Posts: 11027
DSL wrote:
Obvious question but now that the 3.0 lumps have been out there for a while, how are their MAP sensors looking?
I'm on 26k and checked about 4k ago....clean as a whistle
I regularly (roughly every 6th fill) stick a dose of Millers in,and for a brief period (2 months) used 2 stroke......only use supermarket diesel,other than the very odd foray into "premium" stuff....make what you will of that.... "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights
D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do...
5th Apr 2014 6:43 pm
Phantomf4
Member Since: 01 Jan 2014
Location: Renfrewshire
Posts: 201
Just checked mine. 05 reg 69,700 miles EGRs not blanked.
After cleaning
Whilst I was under the hood I checked the air filter....
No idea where the car had been before I got it, in a forest perhaps?
5th Apr 2014 7:06 pm
wantmedic
Member Since: 06 Jun 2013
Location: Brighton
Posts: 22
Just done mine, 127,000 on the clock. Full EGR removal yesterday and thought I would give it a go.. Also re out in the BAS map so it can re calibrate with the clean sensors.
Was getting 22 mpg in town and 24 on a run.. Will see if it makes a difference 2 D3 ‘s’ ambulance conversions and 2 D3 ‘SE’ for home (His and Hers)
110 for the nasty stuff (Now Retired)
2nd May 2014 5:21 pm
marcap599
Member Since: 13 Dec 2010
Location: Munchen
Posts: 959
On my D4 2010 with 118.000 Km I got "limited performance" message on the dash.
The connection wit an OBDII unit has detected a failure on the sensor of intake pression, so I have done the cleaning.
Found it really dirty, cleaned with WD40 and cotton-fioc.
After a first reset all seems ok but, unfortunately, the ECU detect some malfunctions after random period of time, seems It is too late for cleaning only, I need to replace the sensor.
Does somebody know the part/no for the 3.0 TDV6 211 CV engine?marcap599
13th May 2014 9:52 pm
hgbosch
Member Since: 25 Oct 2010
Location: Pretoria and Zürich, Switzerland
Posts: 188
Hi marcap599
Before I get to the topic, you live in a beautiful area!! I had been there 2001, 2002, 2003 when we visited the 1000 Miglia in May with our 1955 Mercedes SL. We used to stay in Sirmione
Now to the topic on hand.
MAF and MAP sensor may only be cleaned with something like Würth brake cleaner spray. To do this, remove the misbehaving part and spray it from a distance of about 15-20cm to clean it externally and also spray into the orifice.
DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOVER PROBE INTO THE HOLE TO CLEAN!!!!
This would destroy the sensor, as has happened in your case.
To clean the MAF sensor, remove and spray it from both sides onto the hot wire to remove accumulated grime. This will return it to service. MAF sensors have a useful life of 90'000km - 140'000km depending on operating circumstances.
A proven way to prevent this buildup of gunk into the intake system is to add 5ml of JASO-FC compliant 2-stroke oil per 1 litre of diesel. This will prevent carbon build up. It will also assist in keeping the EGR system clean. Here in SA we remove the CAT and blank the EGR's and then add a remap to really make these beasts fly.
Here in SA we use a locally produced product "Poly-TFE" which we add to the engine oil once. This seems to cure the tendency of those engines to through bearings and snap cranks.
The well known indies all use it in their workshops for customers cars.
To get some more insights into all this you can contact BABEN on this forum. I have worked closely with him and assisted him in getting the D3's and D4's "behaving" EX AFRICA SEMPER ALIQUID NOVI
SEMPER IN FAECIBUS SUMUS SOLE, PROFUNDUM VARIAT
with kind regards
George Bosch
2005 Disco3 TDV6 S
2003 Range Rover Td6
1998 Disco1 ES 300Tdi (sold)
And some more serious stuff
14th May 2014 4:47 am
marcap599
Member Since: 13 Dec 2010
Location: Munchen
Posts: 959
Quote:
Hi marcap599
Before I get to the topic, you live in a beautiful area!! I had been there 2001, 2002, 2003 when we visited the 1000 Miglia in May with our 1955 Mercedes SL. We used to stay in Sirmione Very Happy
Really nice area, welcome for a beer if you came once more!
Quote:
MAF and MAP sensor may only be cleaned with something like Würth brake cleaner spray. To do this, remove the misbehaving part and spray it from a distance of about 15-20cm to clean it externally and also spray into the orifice.
DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOVER PROBE INTO THE HOLE TO CLEAN!!!!
This would destroy the sensor, as has happened in your case.
Not sure about this, the sensor had problems before the cleaning, anyway, somebody know the part no. or where to get it?marcap599
14th May 2014 5:54 am
caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
Your sensor did not work before cleaning because it was completely blocked. It did not work after because you damaged it?“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
14th May 2014 5:59 am
marcap599
Member Since: 13 Dec 2010
Location: Munchen
Posts: 959
The sensor were working with trouble before and after cleaning, exactly in the same way.
Monitoring it with the OBD2 I can see that is working and miss the signal for a fraction of second, may be also a connection problem, but not found it. All start after servicing the car in LR official dealer.
But is not the question, does anybody kindly have the part no?marcap599
14th May 2014 6:18 am
marcap599
Member Since: 13 Dec 2010
Location: Munchen
Posts: 959
Finally found the problem, the plug have some oxidation inside, deeply cleaned and now all is ok.
Just for information, the part number for D4 3.0 TDV6 is LR019130 .
Next step is to try the cleaning of the intake, i suppose that it is full of waste like the sensor.
Many thanks to the EGR !marcap599
31st May 2014 8:48 am
G7jtk
Member Since: 03 Jun 2014
Location: Prudhoe
Posts: 861
Just done mine. There was a bit of gunk there but the hole was clear. Still to test drive it.
29th Jun 2014 8:06 am
davidedwardmawer
Member Since: 11 Oct 2012
Location: Gironde
Posts: 174
Ignore this!33370 Fargues Saint Hilaire
29th Jun 2014 3:45 pm
mcsimmo
Member Since: 08 Aug 2011
Location: North of the south
Posts: 1795
Glad I checked mine. 08 MY with 81000 miles. EGR's blanked at 75000 after failure. The hole was well and truly blocked.
Cleaned it with electrical contact spray until the hole was clear. I've run it 2 days since cleaning, and can say that my throttle response at low speed is greatly improved, and when setting off from stationary.Man with no D3 anymore, but cant leave the forum....how sad.
22nd Jul 2014 5:28 pm
winaje
Member Since: 21 Apr 2012
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 27
Pulled the sensor out while at work, photos not taken as gunky like all the other pics. Cleaned it with electrical contact cleaner that was conveniently available, lol. Under a lit magnifier I VERY carefully cleaned out the hole with a piece of soft thin solder, took a while, then a final clean out and tap on paper until the fluid came out of the hole clear.
Better low down throttle response. Hoping to see better economy too, as at the moment I've getting about 18MPG in medium city traffic.Regards, Will Church
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28th Aug 2014 11:33 pm
Deanicuss
Member Since: 29 Jan 2012
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 167
TIP don't put anything hard into the hole! it will destroy the sensor! 2005 Discovery 3 HSE
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