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euangibson
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Well,I've donated to him already,so he can  off...
That's fine by me  "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
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Bodsy
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OK, lets leave it a week for people to read it and see if there's any other brainwaves that can come up with another approach. 
Otherwise unless there is violent disagreement on the decision before then, it'll go to Team Goatriders, but lets see what happens in the next week.
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Bodsy
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 Nice and apt avatar Euan  Bodsys Brake Bible
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euangibson
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 "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights
D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do...
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CDS
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As ever, balance of risk vs financial cost will be the driving force. On reflection I think Bodsy is right, nothing much will change from the current circumstances no matter what efforts are put in from forum members
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ruben
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Bodsy wrote:Ok, so getting these extra cases to me wont really help I don't think, other than to show LR we have more and more evidence to add to the 20+ oil pump cases I already have....
The re-design of the oil pump casing (now on its fourth version since changing to the EuIV engine) is evidence that there was something not quite right. The fourth version has been with us since 2009 and has not been changed since.
This indicates to me that the failure is a design characteristic issue and not a 'fault' with an item.......
Regards
Ian
if that is so, I end up not understand why MY07 many more failures than others, with the understanding that there is no MY exempt from the possibility of failing ... I think that somehow has to be related to the adoption of EUROIV in the first units...or not? lost in translation!
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Bodsy
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Ruben, I think as mentioned to you elsewhere, there are some instances of EuIII failures, but most of the failures really started appearing on EuIV engines. Maybe the additional engine power or perhaps just a different vibration or characteristic?
The upshot is, if you are having timing belts changed on EuIII or EuIV engines, change the oil pump case to the universal latest version. LR013487 Bodsys Brake Bible
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doz
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Guys, it's a bit late now but in a former life I was an non destructive tester. As such I ve use to carry out x ray and dpi both in the petrol chemical industry and aerospace. I can probably swing it to get a few x rayed and can carry the dpi out myself. However if concerns were found we would probably need to go back through official channels as my tickets expired some time ago. I own an 07 D3 myself which had the belts and pump replaced prior to me buying the car. Do I don't have a suspect pump here.
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Bodsy
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I can send as many as you want.
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| 5th Mar 2015 2:33 pm |
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doz
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DPI stands for dye penetrant inspection. It's used for finding flaws open at the surface in non ferrous metals ie cracks not visible to the naked eye
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Bodsy
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Only yours coming out twice. is there anything you want to tell us....?
Dye penetration just hadn't heard as DPI. I'm used to DPI in printing which is very different Bodsys Brake Bible
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| 5th Mar 2015 3:36 pm |
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DiscoZack
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Hi,
I see these mentioned: EuIII or EuIV engines. Can anyone tell me how to identify if my engine is one of these?
Is it based on Vin or engine number or MY?
As I have to dismantle the front of mine to replace the Washer bottle, what is the minimum I need to do to see this casing and perhaps take a snap?
Thanks Cheers, Chris in Cambridge
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ruben
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EURO III from the begin to MY06, EURO IV is MY07 and forward lost in translation!
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DiscoZack
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Thanks
So I can assume my 06 plate registered September 06 will be EuIII?
My belts were changed 2 yrs and 8K ago (current 79K) sounds from the above I should be thinking of changing my casing, unless it was changed with the belts but I have no documentation to suggest it was since the belts were changed pre delivery when I bought in April 13.
Any hints as to how big a job it is to check visually?
Thanks Cheers, Chris in Cambridge
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LH EGR valve replaced, cambelt changed
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My other car is a Volvo S60 T5
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Martin
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05MY, 06MY is Euro 3
07MY, 08MY, 09MY is Euro 4
This is based on chassis number. 06 D3 SE / 15 LR D90 XS SW / 88 LR 90 Td5 / 68 BMW 2000 ti
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