J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
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It's the route I have to take though. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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Winger
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Member Since: 15 Feb 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 3428
 
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Indeed. The whole saga is rather like philosophy - a route of many roads leading from nowhere to nothing!
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| 17th Jan 2016 11:10 am |
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DrLex
Member Since: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Ciderspace [Oi be in Zummerset]
Posts: 4863
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So long as it doesn't have a Buddhist ending of change coming from within.
Welcome back, John - thought you'd departed to the land of the midnight sun.  Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana
Member of Club Med Sucks
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| 17th Jan 2016 1:07 pm |
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blackdog1
Member Since: 11 Dec 2015
Location: Staffordshire, but can be anywhere in Europe.
Posts: 296
 
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Dannyson wrote: ....swanseajack ..... I'm similar, have had Land Cruisers for the past 15+ years, hard as nails apart from a few issues (won't bore you with the detail...). Took out a HSE Lux in May and couldn't believe the ride and quietness of the engine.... and all the gizmos...?
But have been 'trembling in me boots' since placing the order back in May ..... LR are 'poor' for reliability according to WD..... I knew all this of course and skimmed this forum beforehand ....I was hoping things are improving and in the main it looks like they may be.... but all these 'minor niggles' on delivery  .... what happened to Quality Assurance at the end of the assembly line and PDi at the dealer for goodness sake........
and Yes, .... I am afraid.... very afraid......  ......  But looking forward all the same....
My D4 is 6 months old now , no faults to date, ENJOY. 
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| 17th Jan 2016 2:04 pm |
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Winger
Site Moderator
Member Since: 15 Feb 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 3428
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DrLex wrote:Welcome back, John - thought you'd departed to the land of the midnight sun.
I was. I'm back!
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| 17th Jan 2016 2:26 pm |
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tintenter
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
Location: Oldham
Posts: 1112
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well mine is in today to see if they can sort the temp sensor out, not holding my breath  they are now aware of the other 30 odd D4's with the same issue so no doubt will be talking with the LR Techs, i also made them aware i have raised it via email with customer services, so will just await the outcome, as it happems the loan D4 also has the issue so that will be a shock to them when i take it back  Tintenter
Corris Grey Discovery 4 HSE
Bigger permagrin now installed
Semper in excretum, sole profundum moveat.
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| 18th Jan 2016 10:32 am |
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BBDisco3
Member Since: 23 Nov 2008
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 3646
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Mine also in today.
When I took it in it was showing 7 degrees.
The loan car which is a 15MY is showing 4 degrees.
So with imput from "Ryan" at LRCS and the information given by DaveT in respect of Carrs of Truro lets hope we get this resolved soon
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| 18th Jan 2016 10:39 am |
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Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
Posts: 15496
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DrLex wrote:
Welcome back, John - thought you'd departed to the land of the midnight sun.
What Blackpool DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S
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| 18th Jan 2016 1:34 pm |
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CRC@LandRover
Verified Account
Member Since: 12 Oct 2012
Location: Coventry
Posts: 415
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Hi all
Thank you to all of those who have raised the concern both to myself as well as our technical team via our Land Rover approved retailers.
Following the information collected and investigations that have taken place, we have identified a concern and a software fix is in the process of being developed to address this. Our retailer network will shortly be advised that a fix is in the process of being produced, however at the current time I would be unable to provide an ETA for the fix.
I would be happy to monitor the situation and will update this thread once the fix has been released and I will shortly reply to each of you that I have been in contact with directly.
Please be assured that this individual ambient temperature gauge does not affect the routine functioning of your vehicle, however we will be looking to resolve this in due course.
Regards
Ryan
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| 18th Jan 2016 4:42 pm |
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BBDisco3
Member Since: 23 Nov 2008
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 3646
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Ryan
Thank you for this information.
You say the "ambient temperature gauge does not affect the routine functioning of your vehicle"
However, there are owners unaware of this issue who may well be driving and oblivious to the fact the frost/ice warning is not operating correctly.
What is LR doing to notify them of this safety issue ?
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| 18th Jan 2016 4:50 pm |
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al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
Posts: 10350
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and its not just an ambient temp issue, its a cabin temp issue, as the internal controls need to be set 2 or 3 degrees higher than my old MY12 D4 to get heat in the cabin, so there is something amiss in general with the latest D4's
Al Volvo XC90 B5 Plus Dark
Gone - MY18 D5 HSE - Corris on 22's with Black Pack
Now gone - MY16 D4 SE Tech, Loire Blue, Almond Leather, Privacy, plus some other goodies.
Old - MY12 D4 SDV6 XS Auto - Ipanema Sand with Almond Leather - Plus other niceties, and D4.com sticker
Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
Ancient - D3 TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony, 20" Stormers, satnav & DVD
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| 18th Jan 2016 5:20 pm |
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Winger
Site Moderator
Member Since: 15 Feb 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 3428
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Pete@LandRover wrote:Following the information collected and investigations that have taken place, we have identified a concern
It would be better to acknowledge that LR's customers identified the concern - LR have repeatedly denied that there is an issue
Quote:...a software fix is in the process of being developed to address this
So, the statement, repeated by LRCS several times, that my vehicle was operating to design intent was clearly a wild assumption
Quote:Please be assured that this individual ambient temperature gauge does not affect the routine functioning of your vehicle
This statement is grossly inaccurate, and dangerously misleading. I would encourage you to edit you post as a matter of urgency to correct this assertion
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| 18th Jan 2016 5:31 pm |
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tintenter
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
Location: Oldham
Posts: 1112
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I have just picked mine up and can confirm they have accepted it as an issue and i now have a TR number to prove it is registered as an issue with LR via the dealer  , i now awaited the fix be it a new version of the sensor or a software patch (breath not holding) Tintenter
Corris Grey Discovery 4 HSE
Bigger permagrin now installed
Semper in excretum, sole profundum moveat.
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| 18th Jan 2016 5:53 pm |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
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OK, LR now acknowledge there is a fault and that they aren't and shouldn't be "designed to over read"
Any how, should I still take my car into the Dealer and have them replace my temperature sensor as scheduled for the 28th?
Seems a waste of my time and my dealers time replacing sensor that will need a software update anyway. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 18th Jan 2016 6:25 pm |
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Klinkhammer
Member Since: 02 Jul 2012
Location: Highlands
Posts: 266
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I'm booked in for 1st and 2nd to allow LR technical to look at the problem with the dealer.
I await with baited breathe! I'm to old to know everything......
D4 Gone over to the Dark Side (D5)
D3 gone ...... But now want one for knocking about! Is this a form of insanity?
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| 18th Jan 2016 6:34 pm |
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